TH = Acend | VLR.gg

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pugz

thoughts?

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elaborate

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both flukes

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pugz

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this

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sentinelmain377

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yall are so biased it is insane

trying to defame Acend is insane. They innovated way more than other teams in the Astra viper meta of 2021. They were the team that used pre-buff Brim on Bind and Omen on split. They abused omen one-ways way more than any other team. Starxo is one of the most insane Skyes ever with his util usage and cNed is the best awp ever..

Defaming ACEND is CRAZY (dont forget they won Masters 1 EU 2021, and got 5th-8th in Masters 3 Berlin 2021)

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Nah this one ain’t a fluke sadly they earned getting year and edg just crumbling, as much as it hurts to admit

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both won the most fraudulent champions

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Astaaaaa

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what has prx won?

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BulkyLettuce

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what does this post have anything to do with prx?

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you are stupid that's it

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yessirsedi

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riens aura clears acend

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2025demon1

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of course

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Both absolutely deserved champs winner. What other thoughts could there be?

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2023 EG clears and it isnt close

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2023 EG had aura, something that Seoul could really use

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Acend only really stepped up in champs. TH made it to GF in both masters and champs. in terms of how they placed in tournaments, EDG=ACE

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yall are forgetting ACEND won masters 1 eu 2021

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yellow_donkey

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it was regional so you can't really compare it to 2024

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Acend were top 3 EMEA team most of the year. Masters 2 regionals they got eliminated in single elimination bracket (SEN lost a game in Americas as well btw) and after that managed to qualify for Masters 3 while looking like arguably the best EMEA team regionally before seeding games.

Calling either one fluke is just dumb af

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i didnt even call ACE a fluke. You don't get to use the word FLUKE when you win champs. I'm only talking about placements in int tournaments. I get that it was single elim but it is what it is. EDG has a similar placements in Masters and champs compared to TH and ACE. its just me own op you're free to hv yer own one

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Acend peaked at the right time + CNed
TH were good for the whole year
Its not even close

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sentinelmain377

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Masters 1 EU 2021 grand finalists are both of EMEA's champs winners. WWW

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boo = donkey kong

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Galactc

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Someone's upset emea won an event this year

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Yuniee44

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They played strong all year and acend is only considered a fluke because they fell off after which we just dont know about TH? Heretics literally beat GenG, FNC, SEN and Leviatan what other team do they need to beat to not be considered a fluke lol

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atleast riens goated

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Acend = fluke
TH = valid

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Segoviano666

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Bro this TH freaking beats Acend

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patuj

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Heretics aren't a fluke in any way. And Acend weren't either. Acend were top 3 EMEA team and at times the best EMEA team for most of 2021. They fell off quick after Champions so fair enough in that sense, but 2021 was overall a good year for them even outside of Champions. Won Masters 1 EMEA and looked arguably better than Gambit before the EMEA seeding games for Masters 3.