thoughts?
yellow_donkey [#9]Acend only really stepped up in champs. TH made it to GF in both masters and champs. in terms of how they placed in tournaments, EDG=ACE
yall are forgetting ACEND won masters 1 eu 2021
sentinelmain377 [#14]yall are forgetting ACEND won masters 1 eu 2021
it was regional so you can't really compare it to 2024
pugz [#7]this
yall are so biased it is insane
trying to defame Acend is insane. They innovated way more than other teams in the Astra viper meta of 2021. They were the team that used pre-buff Brim on Bind and Omen on split. They abused omen one-ways way more than any other team. Starxo is one of the most insane Skyes ever with his util usage and cNed is the best awp ever..
Defaming ACEND is CRAZY (dont forget they won Masters 1 EU 2021, and got 5th-8th in Masters 3 Berlin 2021)
XanXanUk [#8]Both absolutely deserved champs winner. What other thoughts could there be?
2023 EG clears and it isnt close
destroylonely [#5]both flukes
Nah this one ain’t a fluke sadly they earned getting year and edg just crumbling, as much as it hurts to admit
yellow_donkey [#16]it was regional so you can't really compare it to 2024
Acend were top 3 EMEA team most of the year. Masters 2 regionals they got eliminated in single elimination bracket (SEN lost a game in Americas as well btw) and after that managed to qualify for Masters 3 while looking like arguably the best EMEA team regionally before seeding games.
Calling either one fluke is just dumb af
sheahhhh [#21]2023 EG clears and it isnt close
2023 EG had aura, something that Seoul could really use
Heretics aren't a fluke in any way. And Acend weren't either. Acend were top 3 EMEA team and at times the best EMEA team for most of 2021. They fell off quick after Champions so fair enough in that sense, but 2021 was overall a good year for them even outside of Champions. Won Masters 1 EMEA and looked arguably better than Gambit before the EMEA seeding games for Masters 3.
patuj [#23]Acend were top 3 EMEA team most of the year. Masters 2 regionals they got eliminated in single elimination bracket (SEN lost a game in Americas as well btw) and after that managed to qualify for Masters 3 while looking like arguably the best EMEA team regionally before seeding games.
Calling either one fluke is just dumb af
i didnt even call ACE a fluke. You don't get to use the word FLUKE when you win champs. I'm only talking about placements in int tournaments. I get that it was single elim but it is what it is. EDG has a similar placements in Masters and champs compared to TH and ACE. its just me own op you're free to hv yer own one