I knew teams were shying away from it but holy hell
Ascent was only picked in 4 out of the 81 maps played and I'm pretty sure 2 of those were from Trace when they played in the group stage
sensucks [#3]its unironically because of the retake meta being too hard to execute for that map, so teams are just straight up too uncomfortable playing it. it's pathetic.
this is what happens when a brainrot meta meets a map that doesn't support it
bees [#2]Boring and poorly designed map. I hope the casuals finally see it for what it is.
I don’t know what you’re talking about cos it’s one of the better designed maps in valorant.It’s cos the map has been in the game for so long, and it hasn’t rotated out either.teams have just figured out the best comp on the map.IMO they should’ve rotated the map out until the ascent meta comp agents have had balance changes.
sensucks [#4]this is what happens when a brainrot meta meets a map that doesn't support it
Or maybe the map just doesn't encourage creativity and has been played the same way since 2022 despite how much the meta has changed everywhere else
kawaiitiddys [#5]I don’t know what you’re talking about cos it’s one of the better designed maps in valorant.It’s cos the map has been in the game for so long, and it hasn’t rotated out either.teams have just figured out the best comp on the map.IMO they should’ve rotated the map out until the ascent meta comp agents have had balance changes.
Haven and Bind have been around just as long (the former with no changes) and their metas aren't nearly as solved because they're actually designed to be played in more than one way.
bees [#6]Or maybe the map just doesn't encourage creativity and has been played the same way since 2022 despite how much the meta has changed everywhere else
if you think Ascent isn't being played because of "lack of creativity" then you are actually stupid. There's also the fact that you even consider Ascent to be boring when we have maps right now that are literally boiled down to single site brainrot post-plants like Sunset.
sensucks [#10]if you think Ascent isn't being played because of "lack of creativity" then you are actually stupid. There's also the fact that you even consider Ascent to be boring when we have maps right now that are literally boiled down to single site brainrot post-plants like Sunset.
And yet Sunset has given us interesting games. The only interesting thing about Ascent all year was watching a third seed Chinese team demolish on it... and then flop on other maps where that playstyle doesn't work.
bees [#11]And yet Sunset has given us interesting games. The only interesting thing about Ascent all year was watching a third seed Chinese team demolish on it... and then flop on other maps where that playstyle doesn't work.
Ascent hasn't given us interesting games?????? LMFAO?
bees [#13]Great discussion.
i should take this discussion seriously when you unironically believe Sunset, the map thats about to be reworked specifically because of B site being a perma post plant smokespam fest, gives more interesting games than Ascent. You are on drugs.
sensucks [#14]i should take this discussion seriously when you unironically believe Sunset, the map thats about to be reworked specifically because of B site being a perma post plant smokespam fest, gives more interesting games than Ascent. You are on drugs.
Average vlr user encountering a different opinion:
bees [#15]Average vlr user encountering a different opinion:
That not even Riot agrees with, which is why Sunset is getting a heavy rework dumbass. The map is the most boring thing that has ever hit rotation https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1818334609286865383
sensucks [#16]That not even Riot agrees with, which is why Sunset is getting a heavy rework dumbass. The map is the most boring thing that has ever hit rotation https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1818334609286865383
You do know Sunset is more than just B site right? And that Ascent B has been a KJ weak side / sova wallbang shitfest for years?
bees [#8]Haven and Bind have been around just as long (the former with no changes) and their metas aren't nearly as solved because they're actually designed to be played in more than one way.
Haven was literally just changed? You good bro? Ah, nvm, he has an EG flag, I don't need to ask him that question.
bees [#18]You do know Sunset is more than just B site right? And that Ascent B has been a KJ weak side / sova wallbang shitfest for years?
If you actually watched Sunset then you would know B site is pretty much 80% of the map and why its being picked heavily. Majority thinks the map is an issue, Riot thinks the map is an issue, player themselves think its an issue, you don't. Keep coping lol.
neuroniumtwistanium [#19]Haven was literally just changed? You good bro? Ah, nvm, he has an EG flag, I don't need to ask him that question.
Haven has not changed.
sensucks [#20]If you actually watched Sunset then you would know B site is pretty much 80% of the map and why its being picked heavily. Majority thinks the map is an issue, Riot thinks the map is an issue, player themselves think its an issue, you don't. Keep coping lol.
I never said it wasn't an issue, just that I still think Ascent is bad. You're the one bringing it up on an unrelated discussion.
bees [#22]I never said it wasn't an issue, just that I still think Ascent is bad. You're the one bringing it up on an unrelated discussion.
You think Sunset is an issue even though you find watching it interesting to watch, hmm. I like how your argument from the start was talking about how Ascent lacked originality when its the only map in rotation that heavily discourages the current meta that has been dominant since the start of the year haha.
sensucks [#23]You think Sunset is an issue even though you find watching it interesting to watch, hmm. I like how your argument from the start was talking about how Ascent lacked originality when its the only map in rotation that heavily discourages the current meta that has been dominant since the start of the year haha.
A map having problems does not make it uninteresting to watch. Let's drop this and just watch the game.
bees [#24]A map having problems does not make it uninteresting to watch. Let's drop this and just watch the game.
And yet you think Ascent is uninteresting to watch, the only map that again isn't plagued by the current and very boring post-plant meta. Idk where your definition of "interesting" sits in but it definitely isn't for Ascent lol