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Am I in the minority? (phantom vs vandal)

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Camden

For context im a consistent low immortal raze/sova player with an immortal 2 peak. I have a consistent about 14% headshot percentage however about a 25% vandal and a 21% phantom. I dont switch back and forward between the two weapons. My early immortal seasons i only used phantom and now i only use the vandal.

I find that vandal is way more effective on me because i feel that the vandal is easier to spray because the lower fire rate allows me to adjust the spray way better than the phantom. I also feel that recoil reset is much faster on the vandal. I like the vandal more because of the way bang damage and no fall off damage, meaning I will kill someone faster with bodyshots faster on the vandal at every range above 15 meters and since i wall bang a lot the vandal does more damage and the damage wont fall off at range. I find it harder to wallbang someone with a phantom because it can get up to about 7 bullets to kill.

Am I the only one that feels this way? I am asking because i believe the majority of the community associates phantom = spray and vandal = taps.

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lxolotl
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bro thinks hes jay won

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Prancer
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You spray with the phantom because it shoots faster and you can get more bullets out. Phantom spray is more effective than vandal spray at most distances because of the firerate and spread

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Camden
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lxolotl [#2]

bro thinks hes jay won

Well yea i enjoyed watching other raze/sova mains like sinatraa and old zekken. I know sinatraa basically only uses phantom and zekken uses vandal in ranked but phantom on stage

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Camden
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Prancer [#3]

You spray with the phantom because it shoots faster and you can get more bullets out. Phantom spray is more effective than vandal spray at most distances because of the firerate and spread

regardless of the output of bullets vandal kills faster with body shots at every range above 15 meters

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Hades_Loves_Rb
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The reason it happens is because you are used to Vandal spray not Phantom spray (they are different) so the phantom feels worse to spray since youre not used to it.

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masonhil
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Bro thinks he's Jimmy Lin

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Prancer
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Camden [#5]

regardless of the output of bullets vandal kills faster with body shots at every range above 15 meters

You shouldn't be spraying beyond like 20 meters anyways so it shouldn't really matter

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Camden
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Hades_Loves_Rb [#6]

The reason it happens is because you are used to Vandal spray not Phantom spray (they are different) so the phantom feels worse to spray since youre not used to it.

Probably true

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Camden
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Prancer [#8]

You shouldn't be spraying beyond like 20 meters anyways so it shouldn't really matter

Yea i probably shouldnt, i also feel when I burst someone with rifles. I can send out two more accurate 3 round burst at the enemy way better with the vandal and phantom. I feel the recoil reset is much better on the vandal. Im not too sure if its true but I think I heard that recoil reset is faster on vandal under a certain amount of bullets while the phantom is faster over a certain amount of bullets.

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Camden
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masonhil [#7]

Bro thinks he's Jimmy Lin

dont know who that is

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_amBrian
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I've spent so much time practicing vandal taps that when I switch to a phantom my brain just disconnects if the spray doesn't immediately connect

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askrial
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Camden [#11]

dont know who that is

Hey guys, it's Jimmy Lin, in this series I'm gonna walk you through attack on Pearl. Watch out for the stairs, clear this angle, you're gonna be able to fight this.

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Camden [#11]

dont know who that is

Hey guys, it's Jimmy Lin, in this series I'm gonna walk you through attack on Pearl. Watch out for the stairs, clear this angle, you're gonna be able to fight this.

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