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Game changer in VCT

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H3ENnZ

Disclaimer: I dont want to make this political or being offensive to the LGBTQ community because I dont want to get canceled or hurting peoples feelings.
But is it a coincidence that the best game changers player in the world is transgender and will biological male have an advantage playing against biological females?

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sentekken
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You are a stupid person and I mean this in the most respectful way possible (yes it is a coincidence)

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geospliced
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Maybe you're new to the site but this topic has been discussed time and time again. Florescent is just good at the game and that's that.

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H3ENnZ
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sentekken [#2]

You are a stupid person and I mean this in the most respectful way possible (yes it is a coincidence)

Sorry sir wasnt suppose to be offensive maybe i presented it in a wrong way its suppose to be a question not a statement

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geospliced [#3]

Maybe you're new to the site but this topic has been discussed time and time again. Florescent is just good at the game and that's that.

Yea well after she deleted her twitter im acc curious on whether if she will join VCT or not

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H3ENnZ [#4]

Sorry sir wasnt suppose to be offensive maybe i presented it in a wrong way its suppose to be a question not a statement

yes its a coincidence and there are many other non trans people with biological advantages in their own sport that 0 people talk about as well

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florescent is just a good player in a developing scene, like she could prolly do well in NA t2 aswell she isnt the best due to any biological difference shes just the best cuz game changers isnt that good

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H3ENnZ [#5]

Yea well after she deleted her twitter im acc curious on whether if she will join VCT or not

probably deleted it because of all the severely transphobic comments she gets daily

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To be honest, I could care less even if it was true that trans players had the advantage. As long as the cis-women in GC are okay with it (which they are), it's a non-issue. Flor can farm the league until it's dead all they want.

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H3ENnZ [#5]

Yea well after she deleted her twitter im acc curious on whether if she will join VCT or not

Hard to say. I can't comment on how well I think she'll play if she does join VCT but it would definitely be a Valorant esport landmark.

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H3ENnZ [#5]

Yea well after she deleted her twitter im acc curious on whether if she will join VCT or not

she deleted her twitter bc of the amount of people that are harassing her just for existing

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H3ENnZ [#5]

Yea well after she deleted her twitter im acc curious on whether if she will join VCT or not

Twitter (the platform, not just the people) has been a complete shithole lately especially for LGBTQ people so it's unlikely there's any other reason for it

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jiayou1708 [#9]

To be honest, I could care less even if it was true that trans players had the advantage. As long as the cis-women in GC are okay with it (which they are), it's a non-issue. Flor can farm the league until it's dead all they want.

Alright fair enough

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H3ENnZ [#13]

Alright fair enough

It's a fair question by all means, it's just that the way I see it, it's not really for us to care about as men. If it was a problem the cis-women in the league would speak up on their own. That's just how I view most of these things though, makes life simpler.

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nihso
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Enerii is a female?

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I'd say it's a coincidence, I mean in 2022 the best player was probably Mary, not a trans player. If we're being honest, by the looks of it Flor might not be the best player come GC champs (although that could just be because her team has been kinda shit)

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Conceit [#16]

I'd say it's a coincidence, I mean in 2022 the best player was probably Mary, not a trans player. If we're being honest, by the looks of it Flor might not be the best player come GC champs (although that could just be because her team has been kinda shit)

GC Champs MVP is gonna be enerii

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nihso [#17]

GC Champs MVP is gonna be enerii

If Lizhi plays, EDGS is winning the whole thing

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nihso [#15]

Enerii is a female?

Lmao, at least use a better female player as an example, SEA GC region is legit Diamond at best. Anyone can farm that league.

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jiayou1708 [#19]

Lmao, at least use a better female player as an example, SEA GC region is legit Diamond at best. Anyone can farm that league.

Think you forgot they got Top 4 last year while EDG was last.

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geospliced [#18]

If Lizhi plays, EDGS is winning the whole thing

Xipto vs EDG Grand Final 4-3

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nihso [#20]

Think you forgot they got Top 4 last year while EDG was last.

We played SR (best team in the league) and KRU whilst our duelist was on life support (literally). In any case, still female players in G2, TL and SR who Enerii loses to 100% of the time. I'm just saying to bring your best if you're making a case for a female who diffs Flor.

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jiayou1708 [#22]

We played SR (best team in the league) and KRU whilst our duelist was on life support (literally). In any case, still female players in G2, TL and SR who Enerii loses to 100% of the time. I'm just saying to bring your best if you're making a case for a female who diffs Flor.

We will see during November.

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bro if this was true every single top game changers player would be trans, florescent is just insanely good at the game so yes it is coincidence

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trust me bro. if it was a real problem, cis women would speak up. also it's cultural shit. women play less video games, but since flor was born as a guy, he got to play more video games.

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bees [#12]

Twitter (the platform, not just the people) has been a complete shithole lately especially for LGBTQ people so it's unlikely there's any other reason for it

doesnt help the owner is far right

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Gender is a social construct then why u need hormones to change it (no offense with that, just curious)

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Nevermind. without female gender, these Game Changers can't even change any matches in high-elo.

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flinskyy [#27]

Gender is a social construct then why u need hormones to change it (no offense with that, just curious)

Gender theory is a philosophical concept. It's an abstract idea without limits, hence why they say gender is a "social construct", because almost every society will only acknowledge 2 and they think that this is unrepresentative of the (apparently) 1000 other genders.

Transgenderism is different though (where hormones are used) because it appeals to sexual dimorphic traits in order to fulfil itself, which is biology, not a social construct.

That's all I'll say though, I've yapped too much today. Going to chill until the FNC vs SEN banger.

edit - easier to read

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jiayou1708 [#29]

Gender theory is a philosophical concept. It's an abstract idea without limits, hence why they say gender is a "social construct", because almost every society will only acknowledge 2 and they think that this is unrepresentative of the (apparently) 1000 other genders.

Transgenderism is different though (where hormones are used) because it appeals to sexual dimorphic traits in order to fulfil itself, which is biology, not a social construct.

That's all I'll say though, I've yapped too much today. Going to chill until the FNC vs SEN banger.

edit - easier to read

oh i get it, the ones who get the hormones are suffering from gender dysphoria

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flinskyy [#30]

oh i get it, the ones who get the hormones are suffering from gender dysphoria

Exactly. The others that are they/them or zi/zer etc don't need hormones because it's not their body they disagree with, it's how they're identified (philosophy). It's not always one or the other though, some people will be both. Very rare either way though.

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