Finally! GOAT of Valo

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kamisavitar

With this Champs Ending We'll conclusively find GOAT of Valo Ending many Debates:

Aspas (2 champs)[1 MVP]
Chronicle (2 masters-1 champs)[1 MVP]
Tenz (2 masters-1 champs)[1 MVP]
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Sacy (1 masters - 2 champs)
C0M (2 champs)
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Zekken/Derke/Alfa (1 masters - 1 champs)

The Real fight is b/w Aspas, Chron, Tenz for the Goat Spot
I'll post in-depth reasoning tomorrow.

Edit: I'm not counting Chronicle's Lockin Invited event win, he won Masters in GMB too newbies.

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arin2016

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Aspas undisputed goat. He won Champs against prime Optic, unlike botnicle who won when nobody played this game seriously.

Now that I think about it, Aspas has no mickey trophies. All of his wins are valid.

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laeDLaer

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0/8

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arin2016

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Stick to Cheater Strike buddy

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Anoymouse

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ik you are joking about this but holy fuck there is a cheater(legit or rage) 70% of the games that i play in and i am not even ranked that high.

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chronishit keke

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nobody___100

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yeah but aspas got carried against optic while chronicle shat on them

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arin2016

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Nice try buddy, we already saw what happened to Louji immediately after Aspas left. We all know who carried who

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laeDLaer

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aspas 31st highest rated player of champs 22
WORST ON HIS TEAM LMAOOOO
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022

aspas 26th highest rated player of lock in
2nd highest on his team
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo

only good in regionals...

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Average_NA_fan

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or MAYBE bcos he was a 18 years old boy in his rookie year

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laeDLaer

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no exuses mate

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you cant play in VCT if under 18 tho

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SomeoneLikeU

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You could in pre franchising. Less and Zekken did for sure but there are probably others too.

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yeah i know

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arin2016

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So you're saying that Laz and K1ng are better than everyone below them? Answer with a yes or no, so we can see how much of a brainlet you are. Smh bringing in meaningless stats when we are talking about accolades

botnicle trophy cabinet without non-mickey trophies: 🍃
botnicle rating on his life game: 0.94

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kristof

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prime optic would get shit on by a tier 2 team today

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prime EG, Acend and Heretics. all three clears floptic

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OkOkay

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nvm im retarfd

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G2thelion

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2 masters

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geometrix

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aspas is current goat duelist. no questions asked

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trophy weight isn't as relevant imo

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kamisavitar

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Yup das why sacy is below other 3 despite winning 2 champs (inc dis) and masters

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nobody___100

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yes, it will be conclusive until 2025, which is just a few months away, so is it really conclusive then?

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Average_NA_fan

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chronicle stole aspas trophy with a fluke ass 11-3 comeback with lucky clutches

fluke-in doesnt count

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Chikenwarrior23

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chronicle stole aspas trophy with a fluke ass 11-3 comeback with lucky clutches

fluke-in doesnt count

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sergueiessenine

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tenz who hasnt been able to make a single international event appearance over the course of 2 whole years is not anywhere close GOAT status btw. someone this inconsistent can never be the goat

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MuZe

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Don't matter, if he wins this champs, 2 masters and 1 champs is enough to be in the goat convo (again)

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sergueiessenine

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it does matter a lot though doesn't it? how is your goat gonna be the guy who has to watchparty half of the fucking events because hes not good enough to attend said events?

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MuZe

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spoken like a true drx fan, I'd take actually winning trophies and achieving something over attending a lot of events but never being good enough to win

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sergueiessenine

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i mean for one i like to believe that attending a lot of events is an achievement in itself. especially because it happened over the course of drastic meta changes and in the face of such fierce competition. of course winning trophies should be the goal but we can't act like trophies tell the full story. but yeah, to each their own because i'd definitely take a team like DRX/PRX over a team like SEN

i also like to believe that most teams who make it deep into tournaments are good enough to win, i genuinely believe that DRX/PRX are world beaters just like optic, loud, fnatic, sen, etc.

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insane cope

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BulkyLettuce

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you just helped his case for GOAT status even more 😂 didnt make a single international event appearance over the course of 2 whole years and yet has 2 masters? the only other person with 2 masters in the world is chronicle!

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sergueiessenine

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you actually cannot be serious lol. the guy who's spent half of the game's lifetime sitting at home doing watchparty's because he couldnt even QUAL to internationals is not the goat period. it's great to win when given the chance but you cant have such abysmal lows and be in contention for goat conversation.

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the guy who's spent half of the game's lifetime sitting at home doing watchparty's is also the only person in the world besides chronicle to have 2 masters. You just helped his case! 😂

he won 2/3 masters he attended thats a 66% winrate. You just proved why he should be in the conversation

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spent half of the game's lifetime sitting at home doing watchparty's, that's my GOAT ❤️❤️❤️❤️😭😭

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why do you keep ignoring the fact that he is the only person in the world besides chronicle to have 2 masters? is 2 masters, 1 international mvp and the highest rated performance at an international of all time not put you in the conversation? You tenz haters are delusional

https://x.com/willminder/status/1744843988673184187

aspas nowhere to be seen LMAO

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Chronicle is easily the GOAT right now
The longevity, flexibility, IQ, mechanics and accolades speak for themselves.

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Average_NA_fan

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"longevity"
didnt even go to an international event in 2022 lmao

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Galactc

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Definitely would have if stuff didn't happen could have been top 3 in EMEA easily

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Average_NA_fan

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the stuff = losing to screaM and nivera kekw

https://www.vlr.gg/112607/m3-champions-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf

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0/8 bro LMFAO

he has most longevity of any player in the game

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xIgy3

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I feel like Sacy is undebatable number 1 if he were to take this tournament.

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teilwal

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u know ball

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Clucker

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He been fraging out too

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all fun and games until a non trophy winner wins today

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Galactc

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Trace are winning champs

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T3WI

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ok but what if trace edg g2 or drx win lmao

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KingJark

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doesnt change just makes whoever is the MVP and which team of players who won champs closer to being the goat than before

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yeah none of LEV, FNC or SEN are winning sadly

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Kirako

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c0m gonna be the first to won 2 champs in the row he the real GOAT

#MVGA

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KyLZi

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Chron has 3 masters wins already. if fnc wins he would have 3 masters, 1 champs.

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TenZ has 3 Masters wins then too

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0atmeaLLL

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I am pretty sure he mistook lock in for a masters win, but what did you mistook to make tenz a 3 time masters winner?

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masters 1

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Chronicle and TenZ are both Masters 1 winners which was a regional event before Masters 2 Iceland

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ignoring lock in to push a narrative

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lock in should count, at least as a lock in

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if DRX wins Mako will be the undisputed controller GOAT.

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Not counting Lock/In is the most stupid shit oat, it was unarguably way harder than every master event, it had the greatest international final, and its oficially counted as a tier S tournament just like every masters.

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KingJark

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riot themselves said Lock-In didnt have the same weight as Masters or Champs. Also literally every team was invited it wasn't exclusive to just the best of the best teams

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Riot literally never said that.

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im pretty sure riot and other pros called it a Showcase tournament since it didn't have any benefits for the rest of the season except for "look we won lock-in at the start of the year"

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The point its that it didnt give you points for champs, eitherwise, it had a 500K prizepool, and it give a title in-game for the winners like every Masters. If you look the oficcial list of international winners lock/in is there (OBVIOUSLY).

Also it was objectively way harder than every Masters event, even counting Tokyo later that year which FNATIC also won in even less matches.

The fact is that people are making out shit no not accept Chronicle is a 3 time champion, and the rest of FNC is 2 time champion.

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stop reading at c0m

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how are TenZ and Zekken Here???

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Why is Zekken here? Even Tenz should'nt be here the fact that he ghosted for 2 years. Derke, Aspas, Chronicle are the top list of Goats.

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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Aspas champs mvp❌
Pancada champs mvp✅

Chronicle has zero international MVP ✅
Alfajer has one international MVP ✅