The roster, in hindsight, looked stronger with monyet, in my opinion. I originally doubted monyet but he started to fit in more with the team and I think if they didn't pick jinggg back up they could have been a Champs contender. Right now though, I don't think PRX can even make playoffs, much less win Champs. Even if they beat Fut, they have to make it through a very strong EDG, and the road only gets tougher from there. I've been trying to believe all season, but honestly I don't see the PRX we saw against G2 winning anything this year.
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well the thing that did not work out the most is that the team wanted him to be and play like jingg. monyet is obviously not jingg, and their playstyle differ so much. Hopefully if they ever go into another roster change, they look to build around the new player's playstyle while still incorporating their original one. Like what DRX is trying to do now.
yellow_donkey [#3]well the thing that did not work out the most is that the team wanted him to be and play like jingg. monyet is obviously not jingg, and their playstyle differ so much. Hopefully if they ever go into another roster change, they look to build around the new player's playstyle while still incorporating their original one. Like what DRX is trying to do now.
Yeah I definitely saw the problems early on, but it seemed as though monyet got more comfortable, and PRX was able to incorporate his playstyle into their team rather than forcing him to be a jinggg 2.0. I think if they kept him in they could have had a huge chance at winning Shanghai, we'll never know tho.
melodymur [#6]i actually wonder what you prx fans would say if Monyet never joined PRX in the first place
If monyet never joined I would probably still criticize jinggg, as I think he is the current weak link on the team. They have a lot of problems overall, but jinggg's inability to play more than 2 agents at a pro level is one of the most glaring ones. Quite frankly, monyet's flexibility is what puts him over jinggg for me, especially after the raze nerfs.
prx_jingggggggg [#4]what if edg beat g2 and we rematch g2 and win because of the power of nt kub nong and sit in site and let g2 retake and kill us gaming
i would cry tears of joy
ayayaay [#8]did yall forget mindfreak has to play sova when monyet joined 😭
That was before clove release, monyet on Clove + mindfreak 2nd controller would’ve gone hard, especially since Monyet always got like 20 fd
ayayaay [#8]did yall forget mindfreak has to play sova when monyet joined 😭
He only played it on Breeze + he didn't do absolutely horrible on sova the times he played it, all things considered
escapedredpanda [#7]If monyet never joined I would probably still criticize jinggg, as I think he is the current weak link on the team. They have a lot of problems overall, but jinggg's inability to play more than 2 agents at a pro level is one of the most glaring ones. Quite frankly, monyet's flexibility is what puts him over jinggg for me, especially after the raze nerfs.
You said it, is not just a one-guy issue.
- They over peek angles one by one when G2 is never going to give you 1v1s
- They got hard anti-stratted by G2 who played back most of the time and didn't give them any ego peeks and after that they didn't know how to counter their retakes
- They overcooked with their comp instead of playing the meta comps
Honestly, they still have a high chance of bringing this back, unfortunately they faced G2 who knows how to play well vs aggro teams
melodymur [#12]You said it, is not just a one-guy issue.
- They over peek angles one by one when G2 is never going to give you 1v1s
- They got hard anti-stratted by G2 who played back most of the time and didn't give them any ego peeks and after that they didn't know how to counter their retakes
- They overcooked with their comp instead of playing the meta comps
Honestly, they still have a high chance of bringing this back, unfortunately they faced G2 who knows how to play well vs aggro teams
I completely agree with your points. It is a teamwide problem, however I think jinggg's agent puddle is the biggest problem right now. If he was able to have more agents, they wouldn't have to overcook comps and could exercise more creativity in their comps. With jinggg only being able to play sage and raze at a high level, and some neon, they have to build a comp around him, rather that supporting something. The third problem would be completely eliminated with that. Also, PRX isn't really known for meta comps, one of their best qualities is coming up with funky comps. It just comes down to PRX out aiming other teams, since their comps can't really go through the workshopping they need.
Agx192 [#14]People can't be serious saying this shit
I am serious, monyet's flexibility was a huge addition for PRX, and they were able to experiment a lot more with funky comps, like their no duelist sunset. He looked shaky at first, but I do truly think he could've achieved great things on PRX. They could have even run double duelist comps with him on agents like neon.
escapedredpanda [#15]I am serious, monyet's flexibility was a huge addition for PRX, and they were able to experiment a lot more with funky comps, like their no duelist sunset. He looked shaky at first, but I do truly think he could've achieved great things on PRX. They could have even run double duelist comps with him on agents like neon.
Yes i love how flexible he was at playing omen and raze only bro just saying shit probably didn't even watch prx
Agx192 [#16]Yes i love how flexible he was at playing omen and raze only bro just saying shit probably didn't even watch prx
those two agents opened up huge opportunities for PRX in terms of comps, and didn't force PRX into uncomfortable roles just because jinggg can't play other agents. The mindfreak viper on sunset got massive value because of the double controller comp, which they can't do with jinggg. they did show some cracks, but also monyet can play more than just omen and raze, he's shown off really good neon and he could have possibly played a viper/clove role as well.
escapedredpanda [#13]I completely agree with your points. It is a teamwide problem, however I think jinggg's agent puddle is the biggest problem right now. If he was able to have more agents, they wouldn't have to overcook comps and could exercise more creativity in their comps. With jinggg only being able to play sage and raze at a high level, and some neon, they have to build a comp around him, rather that supporting something. The third problem would be completely eliminated with that. Also, PRX isn't really known for meta comps, one of their best qualities is coming up with funky comps. It just comes down to PRX out aiming other teams, since their comps can't really go through the workshopping they need.
But you say this as if Jinggg is taking this ego decisions, like is there any proof he said build around me coach Alecks. Because at the end it is the coach who makes the decisions, if the coach needs you to play an agent you will play it no matter who you are. I am sure Jinggg would happily play any agent unless he is doing poorly on scrims to make the coach think otherwise
melodymur [#18]But you say this as if Jinggg is taking this ego decisions, like is there any proof he said build around me coach Alecks. Because at the end it is the coach who makes the decisions, if the coach needs you to play an agent you will play it no matter who you are. I am sure Jinggg would happily play any agent unless he is doing poorly on scrims to make the coach think otherwise
Again, jinggg isn't the only one at fault, but if he were able to play other agents at a high level then PRX would have already switched over. There is quite literally a video of mindfreak saying he wants something back on reyna for bind the day the match starts and they do it. If he was able to play those agents well he would already be playing those agents. I sincerely hope it's just them saving funky strats/comps for playoffs because I love watching jinggg play, but I do think if he can only play the raze/sage it might be time to let him go, or keep him as a 6th man
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