so valyn got selected for Americas IGL of the year (check yourself on twitter of val sport na), but jhonqt clearly got robbed ? both have 1 international appearance, one got a trophy the other a 3rd place finish, jhonqt defeated gen.g, valyn did not, maybe because of the stage 1 and stage 2 placement ? I'm gonna need some help
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Valyn IGL of the year ?
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nobody___100 [#4]valyn made it to americas grand finals both times
johnqt never made it past elimination round (k0ck0ff don't count)
you get a point
I feel like this decision is so close because I can see both sides of the argument and agree with both. The only problem I have with giving it to JohnQT over valyn is the fact that after Masters Madrid we saw valyn (and consequently G2) step up in a big way leading to them being the 3rd place team from NA headed to Shanghai. Not only going but placing 3rd in the international tournament over the NA winner's 100T.
At that point I would have still said JohnQT was IGL of the year considering they are both in their 1st year as tier 1 IGL's and JohnQT immediately helped his team to win a national and international title. But as we look at today's team rankings and how both Sentinels and G2 have played I'd take valyn over JohnQT.
Sen has slowed down as a team who was running through their opposition and looked like they could be the best NA while G2 has made the steady climb to being better and better with each series. Now yes they lost in the finals 3-1 but the fact that they were able to consistently place 2nd-3rd in 2 national tournaments and 3rd at an international while Sen has been more volatile is the reason I take valyn over John right now.
brahianv [#8]Valyn was more consistent Not a fluke line s0ntin0ls
I agree on the consistent part but the fluke is meh
John and valyn are great IGL's.
Valyn won it because they made their journey from T2 and tbh they are the only accession team that's been good the whole year.
They were consistent the whole year excluding kickoff.
John won an international event but he wasn't the same after Madrid.
If they are considering the whole year then Valyn was more consistent than John.
cloudberry [#2]johnqt won more trophies this year but valyn's been a better igl this year overall
that's like saying mako is a better all time controller than tenz even though he has 0 trophy?
nonsensical
TSMCFAN [#11]that's like saying mako is a better all time controller than tenz even though he has 0 trophy?
nonsensical
yes? tenz literally only plays omen as controller and ive never seen him play brim or viper after 2020 😂 they stopped experimenting with harbor idk why
TSMCFAN [#11]that's like saying mako is a better all time controller than tenz even though he has 0 trophy?
nonsensical
MaKo is a better controller all-time. Especially since he plays more than one controller.
TSMCFAN [#11]that's like saying mako is a better all time controller than tenz even though he has 0 trophy?
nonsensical
S0m clears both regardless
catNmouse [#13]yes? tenz literally only plays omen as controller and ive never seen him play brim or viper after 2020 😂 they stopped experimenting with harbor idk why
Sentinels just doesn't want to play Harbor. In fact the only two Americas teams that opt into Harbor on any map are Leviatán and G2 (LOUD used to but hasn't picked him since dropping qck)
Whaler [#6]I feel like this decision is so close because I can see both sides of the argument and agree with both. The only problem I have with giving it to JohnQT over valyn is the fact that after Masters Madrid we saw valyn (and consequently G2) step up in a big way leading to them being the 3rd place team from NA headed to Shanghai. Not only going but placing 3rd in the international tournament over the NA winner's 100T.
At that point I would have still said JohnQT was IGL of the year considering they are both in their 1st year as tier 1 IGL's and JohnQT immediately helped his team to win a national and international title. But as we look at today's team rankings and how both Sentinels and G2 have played I'd take valyn over JohnQT.
Sen has slowed down as a team who was running through their opposition and looked like they could be the best NA while G2 has made the steady climb to being better and better with each series. Now yes they lost in the finals 3-1 but the fact that they were able to consistently place 2nd-3rd in 2 national tournaments and 3rd at an international while Sen has been more volatile is the reason I take valyn over John right now.
this possibly the best answer, also johnqt already has an international trophy so like.. if g2 doesn’t win anything they atleast get those awards
Whaler [#6]I feel like this decision is so close because I can see both sides of the argument and agree with both. The only problem I have with giving it to JohnQT over valyn is the fact that after Masters Madrid we saw valyn (and consequently G2) step up in a big way leading to them being the 3rd place team from NA headed to Shanghai. Not only going but placing 3rd in the international tournament over the NA winner's 100T.
At that point I would have still said JohnQT was IGL of the year considering they are both in their 1st year as tier 1 IGL's and JohnQT immediately helped his team to win a national and international title. But as we look at today's team rankings and how both Sentinels and G2 have played I'd take valyn over JohnQT.
Sen has slowed down as a team who was running through their opposition and looked like they could be the best NA while G2 has made the steady climb to being better and better with each series. Now yes they lost in the finals 3-1 but the fact that they were able to consistently place 2nd-3rd in 2 national tournaments and 3rd at an international while Sen has been more volatile is the reason I take valyn over John right now.
gotta give a W to Riot for not including madrid and kickoff (mickey mouse events) when considering best IGL this year
cloudberry [#16]Sentinels just doesn't want to play Harbor. In fact the only two Americas teams that opt into Harbor on any map are Leviatán and G2 (LOUD used to but hasn't picked him since dropping qck)
oh they did pick harbor when they kept changing their icebox comp everytime, used to against lev in stage 2. (loud)
tenz harbor would be nice to watch, it would literally work on icebox so well as we see lev owning with it
cloudberry [#14]MaKo is a better controller all-time. Especially since he plays more than one controller.
phrased it wrong, it's like saying mako is a better all time omen than tenz even though he has 0 trophy
also is dort baiter? he seems very retarded.
TSMCFAN [#20]phrased it wrong, it's like saying mako is a better all time omen than tenz even though he has 0 trophy
also is dort baiter? he seems very retarded.
mako is better all time even though he didn’t win anything. he kinda sucks this year now due to him igling but he’s been putting up tons of numbers before tenz qualified to an international event.
tenz has been playing controller since off season events
mako has been playing controller through out his drx career which was 2-3 years
i think that should tell you who’s better all time and even now maybe
TSMCFAN [#20]phrased it wrong, it's like saying mako is a better all time omen than tenz even though he has 0 trophy
also is dort baiter? he seems very retarded.
dort is sane compared to most baiters
I think they're neck and neck to be honest. Both are T2 talents that came in and lit up the league.
They both had different goals. Valyn came into T1 with a full team that he's had experience with but they hadn't played in T1 in a while. I think he really paved the way of success for future Ascension teams and showed them that its possible.
JohnQT is also a career T2 player that had the difficult goal of helping restructuring the most popular team in Valorant. While it's been a rough few months, his impact cannot be understated. He took a content team that struggled for two years and won them an international and gave them competitiveness.
I would only say JohnQT is better just due to the fact that he won a chip this year. In terms of calling and leading, they're the same.
catNmouse [#19]oh they did pick harbor when they kept changing their icebox comp everytime, used to against lev in stage 2. (loud)
tenz harbor would be nice to watch, it would literally work on icebox so well as we see lev owning with it
Oh right, they played him once, but they took out Viper and then got rolled by a team that played Harbor better than they did
catNmouse [#21]mako is better all time even though he didn’t win anything. he kinda sucks this year now due to him igling but he’s been putting up tons of numbers before tenz qualified to an international event.
tenz has been playing controller since off season events
mako has been playing controller through out his drx career which was 2-3 years
i think that should tell you who’s better all time and even now maybe
how is mako even comparable to tenz? tenz is one of the favorites to win champs and has a trophy and has the best mechanics of all time. mako was just known for being OK in 2022, where they placed 3rd top.
I could see why but ehh.... I understand they placed Top 3 @ shanghai, but John Won a Event bruh and they legit had a crazy ass split because of his calling....
I think its very close but the one that won a event should def get the edge, ID only say that for IGL tho, I agree with Valyn being Smokes, eeiu being recon, and eeiu and leaf
But john shouldve 100% been the IGL award lmao
TSMCFAN [#26]how is mako even comparable to tenz? tenz is one of the favorites to win champs and has a trophy and has the best mechanics of all time. mako was just known for being OK in 2022, where they placed 3rd top.
the real TSMC even has baits better than this
TSMCFAN [#26]how is mako even comparable to tenz? tenz is one of the favorites to win champs and has a trophy and has the best mechanics of all time. mako was just known for being OK in 2022, where they placed 3rd top.
tenz is one of the favorites to win champs
be fr mako literally has a higher chance than tenz does to win champs. 4th seed stuck with geng fpx and th is worse than being stuck with kru blg and fnatic
smthlikeyou11 [#29]the real TSMC even has baits better than this
the moment i saw tenz was the fav to win champs when its clearly geng got me to stop reading
Shawn23 [#28]I could see why but ehh.... I understand they placed Top 3 @ shanghai, but John Won a Event bruh and they legit had a crazy ass split because of his calling....
I think its very close but the one that won a event should def get the edge, ID only say that for IGL tho, I agree with Valyn being Smokes, eeiu being recon, and eeiu and leaf
But john shouldve 100% been the IGL award lmao
Recency bias, since SEN in a slump.
smthlikeyou11 [#29]the real TSMC even has baits better than this
it's not bait. also i am real tsmc. just by having the highest peak of any valorant team they should be considered favorites because they can get into form at any moment, it just has to be the right one.
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