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#1
LordItachi

Why do people stills glaze him so hard after he fell off joining liquid, I wasn't watching vct when Gambit played so I have the perspective after his peak and he stood out but not so much as to always revere him . When jingg , sacy , tenz , Asuna , demon1 and other fell off they were getting so much hate from everyone. Why does he get the pass for the best senti always .
Others consider the current form of players and then add to tier list , but somehow he is always judged based on his past peak.

#2
idkmanwth
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nats didnt fall off as a player, give him a good team and he'll still perform, the people you mentioned (except tenz who isnt washed and demon1 who has personal issues) have great teams and dont perform

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chrlxz
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because his teams were always mid asf

last year they beat fnatic who were saving strats and thats it

this year hes got mistic and enzo and he has to igl

#4
edgno1fan2
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the problem with that team isn't nats, they aren't letting him play the super ratty playstyle which worked so well before

in that sense, we haven't seen what he can really do since gambit

#5
kowai
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Well, if you ask me I think the other players get too much hate, rather than nAts getting too much love. Also, from what I have read from this forum over the years nAts is no stranger to hate. He probably gets less than the players you mentioned above but that's only because barely anybody on this platform cares about EMEA games. This forum is Americas' and APAC's love child, EMEA is the uncle nobody invites to the party.

#6
LordItachi
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edgno1fan2 [#4]

the problem with that team isn't nats, they aren't letting him play the super ratty playstyle which worked so well before

in that sense, we haven't seen what he can really do since gambit

Meta has changed bruh you can't lurk that much , people are doing much better VOD reviewing and understanding player tendencies. Idk if just with better lurks he can do all that much and for his kills on his teams isn't that because he's the last person alive and get bait or free kills , (not literally free but yeah).

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Hyopic
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idkmanwth [#2]

nats didnt fall off as a player, give him a good team and he'll still perform, the people you mentioned (except tenz who isnt washed and demon1 who has personal issues) have great teams and dont perform

tbh jingg has only done poorly for like one split this season, all their issues look like team issues in general so it’s really just asuna who hasnt been performing at his peak for a while

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LordItachi
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chrlxz [#3]

because his teams were always mid asf

last year they beat fnatic who were saving strats and thats it

this year hes got mistic and enzo and he has to igl

Many teams have players who don't perform sometimes but their IGLs still frags. And most IGLs are now better at fragging.

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idkmanwth
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Hyopic [#7]

tbh jingg has only done poorly for like one split this season, all their issues look like team issues in general so it’s really just asuna who hasnt been performing at his peak for a while

jinggg has underperformed this year against good-better teams

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chrlxz
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LordItachi [#8]

Many teams have players who don't perform sometimes but their IGLs still frags. And most IGLs are now better at fragging.

hes igled for like 4 games of his career jfc

#11
hellfire
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having a single good tournament does wonders for you
tenz, yay, D1, many cases

#12
De-addy
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idkmanwth [#9]

jinggg has underperformed this year against good-better teams

dude litrally took break from t1 for months so what more you can expect. Like all T1 players have crazy aim routines and all . obv a long break will affect for sure

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idkmanwth
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De-addy [#12]

dude litrally took break from t1 for months so what more you can expect. Like all T1 players have crazy aim routines and all . obv a long break will affect for sure

true, but if his performance was affected, it would show in all matches, jj goes
+40 against talon just to go -40 against geng

#14
BEHEMOTH
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Typical bandwagon geng fan who just admitted he didn't watch anything during Nats' prime. His prime consisted of the most incredible clips where he was winning duels that no other pro could. His ability to perform during high-stakes situations was unparalleled, and his lurks impacted the rounds to the point that he was often the sole reason his team won that particular round. Moreover, he embodied Cypher/Viper so well that he outperformed duelists, even prime Jett.

He is not someone u can compare to bums like Asuna or clowns like demon1, he is still the nicest and purest pro you'll find in the scene. His guides are essential for many Valorant players learning Cypher/Viper, and these players can prove that his methods work. None of the pros you mentioned have all of these feats

#15
LordItachi
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hellfire [#11]

having a single good tournament does wonders for you
tenz, yay, D1, many cases

It was an example bruh and they all getting too much hate literally everyone does it like saying it makes them cool , smart or some shit. And from then point ur making about one tourney, is Nats any different

#16
uwukitten
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Hyopic [#7]

tbh jingg has only done poorly for like one split this season, all their issues look like team issues in general so it’s really just asuna who hasnt been performing at his peak for a while

PRX has been playing shit comps since forever partly because jingg can't play more than two characters, his teammates are forced to flex onto multiple roles around him AND STILL put up better numbers than him

#17
TooCaution_Heartless
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he along with chronocle on gambit roster

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