let's be real man, what is Zellsis's role on Sentinels? Are sentinels REALLY gonna win with Zellsis bruh? Like on a real note, theres so many role issues with sentinels right now its not even funny. ZEKKEN can't op, tenz is perma omen player. Zellsis is "forced" to flex, and i say "forced" because he can only play viper, brim, kayo, KJ and CYPHER. its why theyre breeze sucks, ascent sucks, abyss potentially sucks and haven sucks. They can't have a real OPERATOR player and Zellsis can't fill in as needed. If anything SACY is safe.
1
@sentinels come
posted in
General Discussion
Comments:
Threaded
Linear
ArtemisZ083 [#5]Zekken can op first of all and sometimes tenz comes in with his op. If you say these are role issues idk what you were doing in 2022 and 2023.
just because it improved doesn't mean there isn't still role issues, zekken can op like any other pro player but his op isn't good.. tenz oping on omen isn't bad but it hinders his potential on the plays he can do with omen. you can't use util as freely as you can with a vandal compared to an operator.
kalayav_n [#8]just because it improved doesn't mean there isn't still role issues, zekken can op like any other pro player but his op isn't good.. tenz oping on omen isn't bad but it hinders his potential on the plays he can do with omen. you can't use util as freely as you can with a vandal compared to an operator.
You can't completely fix anything and I am very satisfied with their roles as they are now.
shrike- [#7]i love how you say zellsis can only play kayo viper brim kj and cypher as if most of these agents aren’t incredibly strong flex roles in the current meta
he can also play breach too, it’s actually one of his best agents
the problem is johnqt is a primary senti player, zellsis is at most average as a secondary ini. its why they got harassed on haven by 100t lol
kalayav_n [#10]the problem is johnqt is a primary senti player, zellsis is at most average as a secondary ini. its why they got harassed on haven by 100t lol
zellsis has always played breach on haven, i know this because it is how nrg qualed to tokyo
if double senti is an issue, both himself and johnqt are also viper players
ArtemisZ083 [#9]You can't completely fix anything and I am very satisfied with their roles as they are now.
well good luck perma banning haven/abyss
shrike- [#11]zellsis has always played breach on haven, i know this because it is how nrg qualed to tokyo
if double senti is an issue, both himself and johnqt are also viper players
thats ages ago lol, also the only maps i am talking about are abyss, haven, ascent. sure his kayo on ascent is "fine" but on haven zellsis is not a good initiator on breach lol. abyss i can see him getting off the ini and moving to a viper or cypher but ascent and haven are your new perma bans...
kalayav_n [#13]thats ages ago lol, also the only maps i am talking about are abyss, haven, ascent. sure his kayo on ascent is "fine" but on haven zellsis is not a good initiator on breach lol. abyss i can see him getting off the ini and moving to a viper or cypher but ascent and haven are your new perma bans...
oh i agree that zellsis is super mid as a player, but he for sure fills all the roles sen need currently
i don’t know their abyss comp so i can’t really speak on it, but his best agents are all the agents the team needs, he just isn’t the best in the world at them lol
shrike- [#14]oh i agree that zellsis is super mid as a player, but he for sure fills all the roles sen need currently
i don’t know their abyss comp so i can’t really speak on it, but his best agents are all the agents the team needs, he just isn’t the best in the world at them lol
you do need the best players in order to beat the best teams... thats why am asking what his role is on the team because lets be real..
zellsis can play any agent like mazino can.. that’s exactly what a flex is lmao, he’s played phoenix, neon, harbor, breach, kayo, etc
his role is to be a secondary caller which helps a lot considering johnqt is playing sentinel which gets a lot of value out of lurks so if johnqt is in that position, zellsis takes over the rounds. you might think he’s JUST a vibe merchant but if you’ve seen their vlogs he toughens up a lot when they’re on the losing side, we haven’t even seen their abyss yet and you’re already jumping to conclusions. how is it zellsis’ problem that zekken isn’t a good op player? its not his fault tenz can only play omen and occasionally gekko on bind, maybe he should learn to play other smoke chars or something which frankly he doesn’t even need to considering he consistently performs on omen. he and johnqt are essentially the leaders of the team asides from kaplan and drew whether you like it or not
kalayav_n [#15]you do need the best players in order to beat the best teams... thats why am asking what his role is on the team because lets be real..
i mean it IS his role, and the majority of the time he does it decent enough that the other players on his team can pop off, and at one point it worked since it led them to a trophy
they can definitely upgrade though
kalayav_n [#12]well good luck perma banning haven/abyss
zekken can try neon whether they think she isn’t as viable; problem solved for haven
kalayav_n [#15]you do need the best players in order to beat the best teams... thats why am asking what his role is on the team because lets be real..
Which "best" player does G2 have?
ArtemisZ083 [#20]Which "best" player does G2 have?
idk their initiators are averaging over 20+ assists every game, looks like they know how to play their role perfectly.
kalayav_n [#21]idk their initiators are averaging over 20+ assists every game, looks like they know how to play their role perfectly.
Over 20+? Check your stats again, and please Learn that averages can't work the way you think here. Zellsis also has 20+ assists in majority of games
kalayav_n [#21]idk their initiators are averaging over 20+ assists every game, looks like they know how to play their role perfectly.
Also most of those games are 3 maps and zellsis got 20+ assists in 2 maps
Naah man , zellesis is vibes guy bro, u remove vibes guy and it's hard to find another one that matches ur team and the players also zellesis ain't bad in any way he's the one who top fragged in the final map of grand finals in madrid and led them to victory, also don't badmouth zekken he can't op but he will next year and he's already really fucking clean with the vandal , and sacy ain't safe
ArtemisZ083 [#22]Over 20+? Check your stats again, and please Learn that averages can't work the way you think here. Zellsis also has 20+ assists in majority of games
ill just comeback when you lose out in champs
kalayav_n [#31]ill just comeback when you lose out in champs
How does this relate to what i just replied, and what we were talking about? Every team loses, is this because of their role issues?
ArtemisZ083 [#32]How does this relate to what i just replied, and what we were talking about? Every team loses, is this because of their role issues?
can't wait to see the shit that happens on ascent too with the role issues yall have 😂
kalayav_n [#12]well good luck perma banning haven/abyss
downvoted but vlr users don't know what they're watching when watching valorant so i dont blame them
Idoski [#26]People always point to zellsis as a problem and i dont really get it. Hes obviously not gonna put out the biggest numbers but hes never necessarily been a detriment either. He plays well and hes been shown to provide a big part of keeping the team moral up significantly.
team stunned + his breach is probably the worst rn in any of the teams attending seoul lol
catNmouse [#16]zellsis can play any agent like mazino can.. that’s exactly what a flex is lmao, he’s played phoenix, neon, harbor, breach, kayo, etc
his role is to be a secondary caller which helps a lot considering johnqt is playing sentinel which gets a lot of value out of lurks so if johnqt is in that position, zellsis takes over the rounds. you might think he’s JUST a vibe merchant but if you’ve seen their vlogs he toughens up a lot when they’re on the losing side, we haven’t even seen their abyss yet and you’re already jumping to conclusions. how is it zellsis’ problem that zekken isn’t a good op player? its not his fault tenz can only play omen and occasionally gekko on bind, maybe he should learn to play other smoke chars or something which frankly he doesn’t even need to considering he consistently performs on omen. he and johnqt are essentially the leaders of the team asides from kaplan and drew whether you like it or not
mazino is 100x the player zellsis dreams of, no way you are comparing the both. Do you even watch valorant?
beauu [#30]flex/2nd igl. when johnqt is lurking around, zellsis can help with split second calls and decisions when going out with the team ig
W flex, can play any agent except can't play any agent sob
H3ENnZ [#41]I mean this post makes some kind of sense but Zellsis can acc flex on a lot of agents
SEN need a flash ini, they have no FLASH ini and zellsis can play kayo/breach and all these flash agents but realistically he is not even top50 flash ini/flex's in the game. its whats holding SEN back but since he is vibes merchant and people love hearing him say buy bundle, lets keep him in the team
kalayav_n [#42]SEN need a flash ini, they have no FLASH ini and zellsis can play kayo/breach and all these flash agents but realistically he is not even top50 flash ini/flex's in the game. its whats holding SEN back but since he is vibes merchant and people love hearing him say buy bundle, lets keep him in the team
But what other flash agents is he going to play? Skye isnt in the meta anymore and Sacy can flex on gekko
H3ENnZ [#43]But what other flash agents is he going to play? Skye isnt in the meta anymore and Sacy can flex on gekko
no no my point is zellsis is an OKAY initator but to really improve this team you need a better flex/INI, also zellsis can't flex any other agents other than INI and SENTI which kinda overlaps johnqt's roles(senti),
kalayav_n [#45]no no my point is zellsis is an OKAY initator but to really improve this team you need a better flex/INI, also zellsis can't flex any other agents other than INI and SENTI which kinda overlaps johnqt's roles(senti),
I see your point here fair enough but thats the problem with him. He started out as a secondary duelist player
H3ENnZ [#43]But what other flash agents is he going to play? Skye isnt in the meta anymore and Sacy can flex on gekko
If we are talking about bind, you put tenz on Gekko and sacy on fade. You then would do zells brim and johnqt viper
H3ENnZ [#46]I see your point here fair enough but thats the problem with him. He started out as a secondary duelist player
yeah abit unfortunate ig
aquaa018 [#47]If we are talking about bind, you put tenz on Gekko and sacy on fade. You then would do zells brim and johnqt viper
viper solo controller? brother is NOT trying win
kalayav_n [#38]mazino is 100x the player zellsis dreams of, no way you are comparing the both. Do you even watch valorant?
I think he listened to valorant on a radio
kalayav_n [#37]team stunned + his breach is probably the worst rn in any of the teams attending seoul lol
f0rsaken and alfajer breach were pretty bad util wise
Discord