Who is yall top 3?
AltonBu02 [#5]Can I... can I say c0m?
you can say a lot of things about c0m but his sova is for sure S tier
Vyantic [#26]nowhere near Kronikel, crashies or Sacy.
Mechanically yes, util wise, in his 2023 eg run he had arguably the best sova util oat
AltonBu02 [#28]Mechanically yes, util wise, in his 2023 eg run he had arguably the best sova util oat
of all time?
That's a huge statement dude.
We only saw a year of util usage in the same map pool. I'm not saying his util usage is not good, but i wouldn't say it's the goat util usage.
Statwise he's not even top 5.
Vyantic [#30]of all time?
That's a huge statement dude.
We only saw a year of util usage in the same map pool. I'm not saying his util usage is not good, but i wouldn't say it's the goat util usage.
Statwise he's not even top 5.
sounds crazy but it's true, people were saying that c0m's ult was basically a guaranteed kill with how accurate he was with it at the time and his shock and recon util were always perfectly timed and placed. Saying he had the best sova util oat during that torunament is def debatable.
LilRickyy [#33]nah bro trent in 2022 was NUTS
yeah, he was like an upcoming prodigy around that time, but I would put someone who performed well internationally no?
AltonBu02 [#34]yeah, he was like an upcoming prodigy around that time, but I would put someone who performed well internationally no?
yeah ur probably right but I didnt actually watch VCT back then, I only knew trent.
AltonBu02 [#32]sounds crazy but it's true, people were saying that c0m's ult was basically a guaranteed kill with how accurate he was with it at the time and his shock and recon util were always perfectly timed and placed. Saying he had the best sova util oat during that torunament is def debatable.
That's an interpretation.
There would need to be a huge research to see how many rounds has C0M won from unpredictable or "guaranteed kills" util usage and then compare that to other significant pro Sova users. That's might be just fans talking.
Statwise, counting people with atleast 120 matches on Sova professionally, he's not top 5.
In this order this would be the ranking:
LilRickyy [#39]yeah ur probably right but I didnt actually watch VCT back then, I only knew trent.
that's fair lol. I remember people were gassing him up to be one of the best players in Americas and he turned out to be really good so I'm glad everything worked out for him.
AltonBu02 [#32]sounds crazy but it's true, people were saying that c0m's ult was basically a guaranteed kill with how accurate he was with it at the time and his shock and recon util were always perfectly timed and placed. Saying he had the best sova util oat during that torunament is def debatable.
sacy's use of skills is better than his since 2021, he is sova
Vyantic [#40]That's an interpretation.
There would need to be a huge research to see how many rounds has C0M won from unpredictable or "guaranteed kills" util usage and then compare that to other significant pro Sova users. That's might be just fans talking.
Statwise, counting people with atleast 120 matches on Sova professionally, he's not top 5.
In this order this would be the ranking:
- Sacy
- Leo (he does not have 120 matches yet, he has 106)
- Verno
- Lakia
- Crashies
- Chronicle (if you want to count Leo out because of the match count.)
I'm not comparing between a players life time only during that specific tournament run.
EdsonTresPernas [#42]sacy's use of skills is better than his since 2021, he is sova
Sacy in his champs 2022 run is the only one who I would say you could argue to have util usage as good or better + he fragged better. Sacy during loud 2022 champs run arguably was the best sova of all time.
AltonBu02 [#41]that's fair lol. I remember people were gassing him up to be one of the best players in Americas and he turned out to be really good so I'm glad everything worked out for him.
Same, Since I found out who he was I was a Guard fan, Love that its SEN vs G2 as a rivalry. My two favourite teams
AltonBu02 [#46]Sacy in his champs 2022 run is the only one who I would say you could argue to have util usage as good or better + he fragged better. Sacy during loud 2022 champs run arguably was the best sova of all time.
If you have time and strength, watch Vikings x Gambit Champions 2021 Icebox
Sacy is from another planet with his sova
AltonBu02 [#45]I'm not comparing between a players life time only during that specific tournament run.
Then why are you calling the greatest sova util usage of all time if you're just counting April 2023 to August 2023 (that is less than 6 months of good performances, starting to count from April that is when EG went from the goofy ahh team to the Champions winners).
It's kinda disrespectful towards other Sova pro players who have more time and tournaments played with the agent doing amazing stuff.
C0M is a really good Sova but not the greatest sova of all time, he's not even in the conversation.
EdsonTresPernas [#48]If you have time and strength, watch Vikings x Gambit Champions 2021 Icebox
Sacy is from another planet with his sova
I've watched it before, but I might rewatch it to refresh my memory. I know how great Sacy is and how cracked he is at sova. c0m at his best does compare util wise to Sacy at his best and even then I wouldn't say he shoots as well as Sacy does.
Vyantic [#49]Then why are you calling the greatest sova util usage of all time if you're just counting April 2023 to August 2023 (that is less than 6 months of good performances, starting to count from April that is when EG went from the goofy ahh team to the Champions winners).
It's kinda disrespectful towards other Sova pro players who have more time and tournaments played with the agent doing amazing stuff.
C0M is a really good Sova but not the greatest sova of all time, he's not even in the conversation.
true, but if you look above my original post (#28) kind of made it clear that I was just talking about EG 2023 Champs c0m. Life time, I would say his util usage is still one of the best, but he lacks what other top sovas have mechanically. However, he's also proven to be a great igl or secondary caller for his team. So his value as a Sova overall honestly depends on the qualities you determine to be most valuable to a team.