Abyss was built for this Sen roster

The more I think of it the more it feels like Abyss was built specifically for Sen. Omen is really good for verticality and doing weird things around the edge of the map, TenZ Omen will go crazy. JohnQT is an incredible Cypher player and it seems like Cypher has some amazing setups on Abyss. I think this map will be either a Jett or Neon map which is perfect for Zekken. This is 100% a sova map which is perfect for Sacy. and the last agent I'm not sure whether it will be Viper or maybe breach but Zellsis can play either one.

Riot nerfed Sen by removing split but I think Abyss is almost a perfect replacement for Sens map pool. I also feel like Heretics, Lev, and EG will also be surprisingly good on Abyss.

Thoughts?

No thoughts but i’ll take your word for it

i think chet bouta create even more insane comps than those from haven or lotus if nrg get to playoffs

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

#NRGFAM x #VIVARRQ

cypher? KJ is more valuable on abyss, alarmbot for mid lurks and even maybe placing turret mid(would be a waste though). mollys are way better than trips and since breach and probably sova are going to be100% the pick for initiators on this map, the trips won't mean shit.

ur both wrong, this will 10000000% be a viper map, if cypher is there it’s in addition to viper which is unlikely considering you need double initiator or triple controller on this map

drktype [#4]

cypher? KJ is more valuable on abyss, alarmbot for mid lurks and even maybe placing turret mid(would be a waste though). mollys are way better than trips and since breach and probably sova are going to be100% the pick for initiators on this map, the trips won't mean shit.

the map is too big for KJs range on her utility and there are no good ult spots. I am a KJ main, I would very much love for this to be a kj map but it is not.

greedeetv [#5]

ur both wrong, this will 10000000% be a viper map, if cypher is there it’s in addition to viper which is unlikely considering you need double initiator or triple controller on this map

i said viper, it will either be a viper or breach for most teams depending on the duelist pick

CanadaMan [#6]

the map is too big for KJs range on her utility and there are no good ult spots. I am a KJ main, I would very much love for this to be a kj map but it is not.

im comparing cypher to KJ, i think its going to be 3 initators or 2 controllers with no senti on this map. and if you were to pick a senti id rather be KJ than cypher

drktype [#8]

im comparing cypher to KJ, i think its going to be 3 initators or 2 controllers with no senti on this map. and if you were to pick a senti id rather be KJ than cypher

i also agree that this map has potential to be a no senti map, but 100% this is a better map for Cypher

I guess we'll just have to wait for them to prove this

CanadaMan [#9]

i also agree that this map has potential to be a no senti map, but 100% this is a better map for Cypher

KJ is 100% better than cypher on abyss theres no way we are arguing this...

It is the most harbor map I have ever seen, he is too strong in abyss

Wild take: we're gonna see johnqt on Harbor and Zellsis on sentinel

drktype [#11]

KJ is 100% better than cypher on abyss theres no way we are arguing this...

Actual idiot spotted

It isn’t a kj map in the same way breeze isn’t. Simple

Kirako [#3]

i think chet bouta create even more insane comps than those from haven or lotus if nrg get to playoffs

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

#NRGFAM x #VIVARRQ

Chets bout to pull up with the
Victor deadlock
S0m clove
Fns cypher
Ethan yoru
Crashies sova

CanadaMan [#6]

the map is too big for KJs range on her utility and there are no good ult spots. I am a KJ main, I would very much love for this to be a kj map but it is not.

Wait kj mains exist? I thought that shit was a meme. How do you have fun playing her? Honestly other than duelists and some fun agents like omen, clove, gekko i dont see how people have fun playing other agents like breach, harbor, viper, sage etc...

Daily SEN yap

NexusNomad [#16]

Wait kj mains exist? I thought that shit was a meme. How do you have fun playing her? Honestly other than duelists and some fun agents like omen, clove, gekko i dont see how people have fun playing other agents like breach, harbor, viper, sage etc...

I'm just really good at playing KJ, cypher, Neon but mainly KJ

NexusNomad [#16]

Wait kj mains exist? I thought that shit was a meme. How do you have fun playing her? Honestly other than duelists and some fun agents like omen, clove, gekko i dont see how people have fun playing other agents like breach, harbor, viper, sage etc...

idk but Harbor is kinda fire, like using you cascade so that you can isolate fights onto an angle, and constantly getting ult cause you have perma plant with your cove. just gotta make sure I never buy a shorty

NexusNomad [#16]

Wait kj mains exist? I thought that shit was a meme. How do you have fun playing her? Honestly other than duelists and some fun agents like omen, clove, gekko i dont see how people have fun playing other agents like breach, harbor, viper, sage etc...

Harbor is hella fun, Breach is kinda fun, Viper is pretty cool, idk why people play Sage so much

kapteN [#14]

Actual idiot spotted

It isn’t a kj map in the same way breeze isn’t. Simple

KJ's actually pretty decent on this map. I feel like this is the only map in the game where you could make a solid argument for playing any sentinel

cloudberry [#21]

KJ's actually pretty decent on this map. I feel like this is the only map in the game where you could make a solid argument for playing any sentinel

Not deadlock 💀

r3verie_ [#22]

Not deadlock 💀

I actually think Deadlock could be meta on Abyss. She looks like maybe the strongest agent in the game at locking down B, both on attack and on defense

cloudberry [#13]

Wild take: we're gonna see johnqt on Harbor and Zellsis on sentinel

Sacy on duelist zekken on sova

Prancer [#24]

Sacy on duelist zekken on sova

Sacy is not playing duelist bro I'm sorry

cloudberry [#25]

Sacy is not playing duelist bro I'm sorry

put some respect on his name, he would clear the saadhak neon

cloudberry [#23]

I actually think Deadlock could be meta on Abyss. She looks like maybe the strongest agent in the game at locking down B, both on attack and on defense

stun while people go over the gaps would be funny

Prancer [#15]

Chets bout to pull up with the
Victor deadlock
S0m clove
Fns cypher
Ethan yoru
Crashies sova

no that's actually a half decent comp
knowing chet
he's gonna pull up with some bullshit like

s0m harbor
fns chamber
ethan yoru
crashies gekko
victor sage

i know you didn’t write this fan fiction up with a straight face

Prancer [#26]

put some respect on his name, he would clear the saadhak neon

No disrespect. Just... why would he ever play duelist when he's by far their best initiator?

Harbor is lowkey good in Abyss

cringe

nobody___100 [#28]

no that's actually a half decent comp
knowing chet
he's gonna pull up with some bullshit like

s0m harbor
fns chamber
ethan yoru
crashies gekko
victor sage

som harbor cove mentioned???!?!?

NexusNomad [#16]

Wait kj mains exist? I thought that shit was a meme. How do you have fun playing her? Honestly other than duelists and some fun agents like omen, clove, gekko i dont see how people have fun playing other agents like breach, harbor, viper, sage etc...

breach is fun if you like being annoying

cloudberry [#30]

No disrespect. Just... why would he ever play duelist when he's by far their best initiator?

Because you haven't seen his neon they don't call him speedy sacy for nothing

(I'm being sarcastic and satire I do not believe you were disrespecting him nor do I think he should play duelist)

nobody___100 [#28]

no that's actually a half decent comp
knowing chet
he's gonna pull up with some bullshit like

s0m harbor
fns chamber
ethan yoru
crashies gekko
victor sage

Fenis post nerf chamber >>>> Prime Yay+Cryo+Ardis combined

drktype [#8]

im comparing cypher to KJ, i think its going to be 3 initators or 2 controllers with no senti on this map. and if you were to pick a senti id rather be KJ than cypher

Killjoy>>>Cypher her turret value is insane. but i think no-sentinel meta would be work in pro play.

yeh

ctabust [#33]

som harbor cove mentioned???!?!?

cove shorty ono

Prancer [#36]

Fenis post nerf chamber >>>> Prime Yay+Cryo+Ardis combined

exactly
3k every round

nobody___100 [#39]

cove shorty ono

Throwing? I was throwing once. They locked me in a cove. A Harbor cove. A Harbor cove with a shorty. And shorties makes me throw.Throwing? I was throwing once. They locked me in a cove. A Harbor cove. A Harbor cove with a shorty. And shorties makes me throw

ethi [#37]

Killjoy>>>Cypher her turret value is insane. but i think no-sentinel meta would be work in pro play.

ima jus let these idiots argue, ill comeback once their favorite team's play KJ instead of cypher lol

drktype [#42]

ima jus let these idiots argue, ill comeback once their favorite team's play KJ instead of cypher lol

#21
Some teams might be running Sage

cloudberry [#43]

#21
Some teams might be running Sage

who's holding map control for you on attack side? Sage might unironically be the worst sentinel on abyss...

drktype [#44]

who's holding map control for you on attack side? Sage might unironically be the worst sentinel on abyss...

You don't really need heavy map control on this map. This map plays out quite a lot like Icebox, actually

cloudberry [#45]

You don't really need heavy map control on this map. This map plays out quite a lot like Icebox, actually

?? your gonna get flanked, probably the most easiest map to lurk/flank in

drktype [#46]

?? your gonna get flanked, probably the most easiest map to lurk/flank in

A lot like Icebox, yea. Just because people can flank (they always can) doesn't mean info sentinels are a requirement

cloudberry [#47]

A lot like Icebox, yea. Just because people can flank (they always can) doesn't mean info sentinels are a requirement

probably the dumbest thing ive ever heard, you do you bro. im not gonna even gonna explain

drktype [#48]

probably the dumbest thing ive ever heard, you do you bro. im not gonna even gonna explain

¯_(ツ)_/¯

NexusNomad [#16]

Wait kj mains exist? I thought that shit was a meme. How do you have fun playing her? Honestly other than duelists and some fun agents like omen, clove, gekko i dont see how people have fun playing other agents like breach, harbor, viper, sage etc...

when I play KJ I can just put my util pre round and focus on shooting heads. I can even play an OP on defense