guys, this is a month old team we are talking about, who have just faced the current best team in the league according to the official rankings. What the fuck did you guys expect? There’s a reason why NRG can only see consistent wins against MIBR, they’re the 2nd worst team
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JMZxp [#2]Expected them not to get destroyed by Sheriffs after winning the eco round
and I expected you guys to not expect anything out of a newborn of a team
babysasuke [#6]I refuse to listen to reason, I just want to dance on the Optic core's grave
as an EMEA fan I am still traumatized by FNS reading my shit teams like a book for 3 straight years
lmfao
babysasuke [#6]I refuse to listen to reason, I just want to dance on the Optic core's grave
as an EMEA fan I am still traumatized by FNS reading my shit teams like a book for 3 straight years
As an EMEA fan too, I hear u brother. I'm just mad that prime FNS cooked us
merciless-pity8989-89 [#9]it’s literally the same team they had last year with ethan instead if ardiis. This team isn’t new and a month is only too little time if the team is completely new
you’re one of many dumbasses who do not understand how fresh it is to replace 2/5 players and the leadership role with people who haven’t touched competitive play since champs 2023. This change isn’t just slotting shit out and slotting shit in, the entire dynamic ends up being targeted.
peaced [#7]the fuck I’m I coping about
brother you are coping hard. accept that nrg are shit in the current form they are in and will not reach champions.
peaced [#12]you’re one of many dumbasses who do not understand how fresh it is to replace 2/5 players and the leadership role with people who haven’t touched competitive play since champs 2023. This change isn’t just slotting shit out and slotting shit in, the entire dynamic ends up being targeted.
plus entirely diff meta
babysasuke [#6]I refuse to listen to reason, I just want to dance on the Optic core's grave
as an EMEA fan I am still traumatized by FNS reading my shit teams like a book for 3 straight years
Nah fax
https://www.vlr.gg/112334/optic-gaming-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/220442/fnatic-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/112282/optic-gaming-vs-guild-esports-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-opening-a
supersussyspedwin [#14]brother you are coping hard. accept that nrg are shit in the current form they are in and will not reach champions.
???
peaced [#12]you’re one of many dumbasses who do not understand how fresh it is to replace 2/5 players and the leadership role with people who haven’t touched competitive play since champs 2023. This change isn’t just slotting shit out and slotting shit in, the entire dynamic ends up being targeted.
a month is enough time
merciless-pity8989-89 [#9]it’s literally the same team they had last year with ethan instead if ardiis. This team isn’t new and a month is only too little time if the team is completely new
You forget that two players were literally retired for almost a year. And this roster had only a month of practice. Whilst the teams they lost to this split already existed and played in this capacity since last year (with minor changes). The first being Madrid winner and the second being currently what is considered the best team in Americas given their Shanghai placement.
JMZxp [#22]Cope pig🚬🚬🚬
I am literally acknowledging the fact that NRG are dogshit as I’ve been saying that since I joined this site, and you think I’m coping because………..
Is this stupidity a European thing? Did google translate fail you on this post?
It's not like fns and s0m didn't play with crashes and Victor before, just admit it they're terrible. No matter how much time they get, they will still not make another international LAN because of how competitive NA is right now, if FNS can't IGL properly then what can he contribute to the team? The guy is a walking ult orb
peaced [#26]I am literally acknowledging the fact that NRG are dogshit as I’ve been saying that since I joined this site, and you think I’m coping because………..
Is this stupidity a European thing? Did google translate fail you on this post?
coming from the american
chocoinmytacos [#27]It's not like fns and s0m didn't play with crashes and Victor before, just admit it they're terrible. No matter how much time they get, they will still not make another international LAN because of how competitive NA is right now, if FNS can't IGL properly then what can he contribute to the team? The guy is a walking ult orb
We don’t know how bad they’ll be with a regular amount of practice, but any team is going to flop with just a month’s worth, get that through your skull for me pretty please. If you’re interpreting this post as if I’m making excuses for players I literally do not care about besides s0m who I just think is pathetic, you need to wake up for me
SHMG [#20]You forget that two players were literally retired for almost a year. And this roster had only a month of practice. Whilst the teams they lost to this split already existed and played in this capacity since last year (with minor changes). The first being Madrid winner and the second being currently what is considered the best team in Americas given their Shanghai placement.
No one on this site thinks G2 are the best America's team
merciless-pity8989-89 [#19]a month is enough time
only person who ever said that is your coach t0rmi
oiiink [#28]coming from the american
and the american here seems to be the only one understanding basic English between the two, who knew
peaced [#33]and the american here seems to be the only one understanding basic English between the two, who knew
coming from the american
peaced [#23]LOL
It only took maybe 2-3 weeks for Wo0t to be slotted in comfortably in EMEA and it worked wonders, G2 slotted icy in and switched up their whole leadership structure removing neT. C9 Integrated Runi and moose completely switched roles within 3 weeks, ending the record with 5-1 in stage 1. Shouldn't players who have been playing fps for 5+ years not be slotting in faster and adjusting even quicker? I mean back in the day when FNS got yay and married 1 week before qualifiers for masters Berlin, they qualified for Berlin.
peaced [#30]We don’t know how bad they’ll be with a regular amount of practice, but any team is going to flop with just a month’s worth, get that through your skull for me pretty please. If you’re interpreting this post as if I’m making excuses for players I literally do not care about besides s0m who I just think is pathetic, you need to wake up for me
not 'any' team, a lot of teams have been pretty successful with quick changes. Some have been slower but that's the beauty, you see teams like EG starting to find their footing by Stage 2 and teams like C9 and many other EMEA teams finding their footing with roster changes by around 2-3 weeks.
Asokra [#38]It only took maybe 2-3 weeks for Wo0t to be slotted in comfortably in EMEA and it worked wonders, G2 slotted icy in and switched up their whole leadership structure removing neT. C9 Integrated Runi and moose completely switched roles within 3 weeks, ending the record with 5-1 in stage 1. Shouldn't players who have been playing fps for 5+ years not be slotting in faster and adjusting even quicker? I mean back in the day when FNS got yay and married 1 week before qualifiers for masters Berlin, they qualified for Berlin.
#12 is your response, and read the words being spoken there very very carefully. If you think it isn’t that big of a deal still then live your life, because I’m more than certain to tell you that FNS and s0m mainly rejoined the team they literally left on their own to prepare for a 2025 rebuild, something FNS has been asking for from teams since his initial leave
peaced [#41]#12 is your response, and read the words being spoken there very very carefully. If you think it isn’t that big of a deal still then live your life, because I’m more than certain to tell you that FNS and s0m mainly rejoined the team they literally left on their own to prepare for a 2025 rebuild, something FNS has been asking for from teams since his initial leave
You're overthinking it bro for sure, C9 did a change 2 weeks before moving their IGL onto a different agent. Slotting 2 different players back in and were much better off. I gave you examples on why your argument isn't consistent and more seen as cope for NRG than anything. Let's wait and see how GIANTX does without Redgar and see if your argument is valid, because it is a good argument to make but we have seen many times that it is not really the case. SEN was 100x the better as soon as they slotted in johnqt and Zellsis than before with the previous igling system with Marved and Dephh.
edit: also if you think it is based on rust, look at moose and runi on C9. Or wo0t who sat out for 6+ months to begin playing franchised when he turned of age.
LouBag [#39]FNS in 2024
0% Win rate
.59 rating
34-76Mechanically the worst player in t1 in the world
2 game sample space let's calm down
peaced [#8]and I expected you guys to not expect anything out of a newborn of a team
you need to stop posting for today buddy
Asokra [#42]You're overthinking it bro for sure, C9 did a change 2 weeks before moving their IGL onto a different agent. Slotting 2 different players back in and were much better off. I gave you examples on why your argument isn't consistent and more seen as cope for NRG than anything. Let's wait and see how GIANTX does without Redgar and see if your argument is valid, because it is a good argument to make but we have seen many times that it is not really the case. SEN was 100x the better as soon as they slotted in johnqt and Zellsis than before with the previous igling system with Marved and Dephh.
edit: also if you think it is based on rust, look at moose and runi on C9. Or wo0t who sat out for 6+ months to begin playing franchised when he turned of age.
not only are you completely glossing over the fact that the players returning to NRG haven’t touched comp play since champs 2023 as if it isn’t even worth mentioning, but to see you insinuating that I’m coping for this team because of dumbass examples trying to justify why NRG should be given expectations is crazy.
You listed examples of changes that never directly seeked to change the dynamics of the team at all (I mean, icy for neT is apparently worth as much as a change than this?). FNS didn’t just join to be their igl, he joined to completely manage the clusterfuck that was Split 1 in and outside matches. Their head coach wanting to depart after seeking FNS isn’t just some random ass coincidence. It is in every way starting from scratch for them after several, several months of scrims with the old team.
Again, if you wanna disagree with me then live with that while this team preps for 2025 which may as well be their initial goal for making a change like this in June.
Asokra [#40]not 'any' team, a lot of teams have been pretty successful with quick changes. Some have been slower but that's the beauty, you see teams like EG starting to find their footing by Stage 2 and teams like C9 and many other EMEA teams finding their footing with roster changes by around 2-3 weeks.
look at EG and C9 find their footing after having significantly more time to practice that definitely was not shorter than 2-3 weeks, so inspirational
peaced [#47]not only are you completely glossing over the fact that the players returning to NRG haven’t touched comp play since champs 2023 as if it isn’t even worth mentioning, but to see you insinuating that I’m coping for this team because of dumbass examples trying to justify why NRG should be given expectations is crazy.
You listed examples of changes that never directly seeked to change the dynamics of the team at all (I mean, icy for neT is apparently worth as much as a change than this?). FNS didn’t just join to be their igl, he joined to completely manage the clusterfuck that was Split 1 in and outside matches. Their head coach wanting to depart after seeking FNS isn’t just some random ass coincidence. It is in every way starting from scratch for them after several, several months of scrims with the old team.
Again, if you wanna disagree with me then live with that while this team preps for 2025 which may as well be their initial goal for making a change like this in June.
the statement "month-old team" is the original argument, don't make a straw man out of the argument. Other teams have definitely done it within a month regardless of how bad the situation has been, some teams fail like NRG have just now. SEN started to gel together perfectly as soon as they got johnqt and Zellsis, it's not like they were horrid in their fast matches.
babysasuke [#6]I refuse to listen to reason, I just want to dance on the Optic core's grave
as an EMEA fan I am still traumatized by FNS reading my shit teams like a book for 3 straight years
https://www.vlr.gg/220442/fnatic-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf
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