They didn't played 7 games can somebody please explain?
HasosP [#5]Brainrot format
ummm why? scores against every other teams (round robin) is the great format
or are you salty sentinels only have, what, 3 wins?
TheLoque [#7]ummm why? scores against every other teams (round robin) is the great format
or are you salty sentinels only have, what, 3 wins?
no, you dumbass, it means that even if teams rebuild/reinvent themselves or even go complete roster changes between stages, they still might have a hard chance
look at furia for example, beating 0thieves but got no chance at playoffs
nobody___100 [#8]no, you dumbass, it means that even if teams rebuild/reinvent themselves or even go complete roster changes between stages, they still might have a hard chance
look at furia for example, beating 0thieves but got no chance at playoffs
okay... so the management did a shitty job at the start of the season... champs rewards teams who put up great performance throughout the season... tough luck to them then womp womp
TheLoque [#9]okay... so the management did a shitty job at the start of the season... champs rewards teams who put up great performance throughout the season... tough luck to them then womp womp
lmao u can just win all ur games in stage 1 and lose everything in stage 2 and still qual for playoffs, u def dont get rewarded for "putting great performance throughout the season"
heavensentsaint [#10]lmao u can just win all ur games in stage 1 and lose everything in stage 2 and still qual for playoffs, u def dont get rewarded for "putting great performance throughout the season"
oh so losing all games in stage 1 then winning all games in stage 2 is WAY WORSE than winning then losing???
the inconsistency.... is laughable :)))
nobody___100 [#8]no, you dumbass, it means that even if teams rebuild/reinvent themselves or even go complete roster changes between stages, they still might have a hard chance
look at furia for example, beating 0thieves but got no chance at playoffs
a different format would take away stage 1 accomplishments
nobody___100 [#8]no, you dumbass, it means that even if teams rebuild/reinvent themselves or even go complete roster changes between stages, they still might have a hard chance
look at furia for example, beating 0thieves but got no chance at playoffs
+1
TheLoque [#11]oh so losing all games in stage 1 then winning all games in stage 2 is WAY WORSE than winning then losing???
the inconsistency.... is laughable :)))
yes it rewards inconsistent teams r u retarded and discourages teams from making mid season changes
TheLoque [#11]oh so losing all games in stage 1 then winning all games in stage 2 is WAY WORSE than winning then losing???
the inconsistency.... is laughable :)))
its because in the past, teams like kru have gone on miracle LCQ runs after an 0-9 regular season to go to champs
now, its impossible.
heavensentsaint [#14]yes it rewards inconsistent teams r u retarded and discourages teams from making mid season changes
making stage 2 results more valuable than stage 1 wins makes stage 1 way less relevant, like what’s the point of trying in stage 1 if the records get wiped for stage 2? teams making mid-season changes need to deal with their poor performances in stage 1 and look to bounce back next year, any other way is categorically unfair
ark2 [#16]making stage 2 results more valuable than stage 1 wins makes stage 1 way less relevant, like what’s the point of trying in stage 1 if the records get wiped for stage 2? teams making mid-season changes need to deal with their poor performances in stage 1 and look to bounce back next year, any other way is categorically unfair
trying in stage 1 rewards you for making playoffs for masters...?
especially with how often the meta changes, my point is a team can completely shit the bed in stage 2 and get carried by their stage 1 record, i dont see how thats rewarding consistency
K4ziuHa [#12]a different format would take away stage 1 accomplishments
just make 2 separate tournaments. The stage 1 accomplishments were the champions points and chance to go to Masters. With this format rn you just kill the competition halfway through it
ark2 [#16]making stage 2 results more valuable than stage 1 wins makes stage 1 way less relevant, like what’s the point of trying in stage 1 if the records get wiped for stage 2? teams making mid-season changes need to deal with their poor performances in stage 1 and look to bounce back next year, any other way is categorically unfair
In an esports ecosystem, a year is a long time to sit on your hands. But riot caused all this due to franchising
I wish val was on an open circuit format instead with tourneys across the world similar to cs:go, its so much more entertaining and teams don't end up in the street for 8months if they have a bad split. having teams do nothing for extended periods of time is how you build resentment with orgs imo
heavensentsaint [#17]trying in stage 1 rewards you for making playoffs for masters...?
especially with how often the meta changes, my point is a team can completely shit the bed in stage 2 and get carried by their stage 1 record, i dont see how thats rewarding consistency
If that’s the case, then you should also be able to do the other way around (play poorly in stage 1 and pop off stage 2 and make champs), the odds of winning out in stage 1 and winning out in stage 2 are pretty much identical; the biggest problem with wiping the slate for stage 2 is that you don’t have time to run another round robin, so you could get absolutely fucked by having a strong group stage 2 while a weaker group gets more qualification spots
masters and champs are sadly not equivalent, its way more financially and reputationally beneficial to make it to champs
i do agree that riot making massive map/agent changes in the middle of the season makes it hard to stay consistent and its very odd
sm1th0o [#18]just make 2 separate tournaments. The stage 1 accomplishments were the champions points and chance to go to Masters. With this format rn you just kill the competition halfway through it
so with 11 teams and every team played at least once a week, you're saying we should have at least 10 weeks stages for each masters and champs????? to help with your math, 10 weeks is 2 months, potentially 3 months long tournament....
TheLoque [#21]so with 11 teams and every team played at least once a week, you're saying we should have at least 10 weeks stages for each masters and champs????? to help with your math, 10 weeks is 2 months, potentially 3 months long tournament....
It doesn't have to be 1 game per week but if it is it would still be better since there are teams that go through 6~7 months without any game
sm1th0o [#22]It doesn't have to be 1 game per week but if it is it would still be better since there are teams that go through 6~7 months without any game
"wait, there are!?!?!? wow what a shit team that is" is what most people would say... ever think maybe they really do deserved to not be able to play that long because of their bad performances???
TheLoque [#23]"wait, there are!?!?!? wow what a shit team that is" is what most people would say... ever think maybe they really do deserved to not be able to play that long because of their bad performances???
no they don't deserve since it's their vocation and the orgs are losing money just to keep them inactive
sm1th0o [#24]no they don't deserve since it's their vocation and the orgs are losing money just to keep them inactive
maybe be a better team????
TheLoque [#25]maybe be a better team????
how can they be a better team since the mid season transfers wont affect the upcoming split?
sm1th0o [#26]how can they be a better team since the mid season transfers wont affect the upcoming split?
you dont have to do a mid season transfer if you already a better team from stage 1, thats the point... be better from the start