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EU currently the deepest and strongest region?

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#1
hiruae

First of all, no trolling, and I should mention I'm an APAC fan myself.

In my opinion, the EU currently has four world-class teams:

  1. Heretics
  2. Fnatic
  3. Karmine Corp
  4. NAVI

Additionally, FUT and BBL are decent teams that can compete with any team globally. Teams like TL, VIT, KOI, and M8 still need to prove themselves.

Comparatively, in the Pacific region, we have:

  1. GenG
  2. PRX
  3. DRX

These are some of the best teams in the world, followed by mid-table teams:

  1. TS
  2. Talon
  3. T1
  4. RRQ
  5. ZETA
  6. DFM
  7. GE
  8. Bleed

I don't think any of these mid-table teams are quite ready to challenge the top international teams yet.

As for the Americas, I feel it's currently the third-best region. They don't have a top team like Heretics or GenG. SEN could have been that team but consistency is more important than winning just one event and then underperforming.
Here’s my ranking of the Americas teams:

  1. SEN
  2. 100T (they got destroyed by GenG and TH, otherwise they’d be #1)
  3. G2
  4. LEV
  5. LOUD / C9 / NRG / KRU / EG
  6. MIBR
  7. Furia

If we compare the top teams of each region, the EU has a wealth of strong teams. Even when comparing the bottom half, EU teams are quite competent compared to those in the Americas and APAC. Teams like MIBR, Furia, GE, Bleed, and DFM are not on the same level as VIT, BBL, M8, and TL. Maybe not KOI

Do you think this assessment is unfair to the Americas?

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cloudberry
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I think this assessment is unfair to basically everybody bro

#3
Dorszlol20
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KC is not a world class team bro 😭

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meyournightmare
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  1. HERETICS
  2. NAVI
  3. KC
  4. FUT
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kirito5133
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Fnatic KC and Navi are not world class team

#6
Platypusdude
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Kc idk they are good for first 3 games and then are bad
Idk about them

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boilin_cockroach
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Dorszlol20 [#3]

KC is not a world class team bro 😭

worry about navi after their recent shitshow

#8
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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FUT disrespect is crazy

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jSpark
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kirito5133 [#5]

Fnatic KC and Navi are not world class team

navi just played awfully last match they are still top 3 emea undoubtedly

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kirito5133
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jSpark [#9]

navi just played awfully last match they are still top 3 emea undoubtedly

they can be top 3 emea but still not be world class. in my opinion eu only has 1 world class team thats heretics

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realistically i think only th and navi can be considered world class teams in eu, and even then navi is a tossup considering they've only lost to heretics in important matches therefore we have no idea how they'd do internationally. i don't think it's necessarily right or wrong to say eu has the deepest region considering that teams have become so inconsistent (i.e fnatic, prx, etc), but we can definitely see potential. however it's whether the teams that have great potential actually perform up to that standard, and a lot of the Americas teams fit under this label, great potential but terrible results. i'd rank apac first just because of recency bias, and then americas and eu are pretty equal (i know heretics won against both 100t and g2, but fut and fnc both got shat on)

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kirito5133 [#10]

they can be top 3 emea but still not be world class. in my opinion eu only has 1 world class team thats heretics

ok i agree with you if you're talking about trophy contenders only TH is world class

but i think navi will make playoffs if they do go to champs

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True answer:

1 Heretics
2 Navi
3 Fut
4 Vitality
5 FNC

1 NRG
2 100T
3 Sen

1 GenG
2 PRX

1 FPX

But yes. Eu is the best rn

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beaver_man
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Fnatic is your second best team and they flopped and lost their best player (WASHED) 😹 EU always a 1 team region

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Congo1
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kirito5133 [#10]

they can be top 3 emea but still not be world class. in my opinion eu only has 1 world class team thats heretics

so what then? are 2 world class team o the planet only? GenG and Heretics? And thats it?? Stupidly restrictive definition of wolrd class

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babysasuke
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Fnatic is a world class team

They are on par with another EMEA world class team: BBL

deranged writeup, next time save the effort and don't bother

#17
eGGERTZ
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Bro how could you put fnc KC over fut ☠️☠️

#18
xaib
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i think vit might do good this split

#19
flanador
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2/8 bait

#20
Dorszlol20
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boilin_cockroach [#7]

worry about navi after their recent shitshow

Worry about sen, your dogshit team couldnt even make playoffs🤣🤣

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Ullyr
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very terrible bait during prime EU hours too

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Dreoxx
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Congo1 [#13]

True answer:

1 Heretics
2 Navi
3 Fut
4 Vitality
5 FNC

1 NRG
2 100T
3 Sen

1 GenG
2 PRX

1 FPX

But yes. Eu is the best rn

how did you even think of including VIT

how tf is NRG 1st in AMER, and why is G2 not included

how tf is NAVI FNC FUT included but not DRX

TE/EDG possibly

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nobody___100
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somehow you managed to get everything wrong as shit
EU 1 good team, TH
vs APAC 1 good team, GenG, + washed PRX and unlucky DRX
vs Americas 9 good teams, nobody knows how sen have bounced back, how good nrg with puchan is, how g2 and 100t have bounced back, how good oxy9 and lev are, and eg is also a wild card. kru went on a strong run too, and can’t count out loud who just got their champs mvp back

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Dreoxx
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nobody___100 [#23]

somehow you managed to get everything wrong as shit
EU 1 good team, TH
vs APAC 1 good team, GenG, + washed PRX and unlucky DRX
vs Americas 9 good teams, nobody knows how sen have bounced back, how good nrg with puchan is, how g2 and 100t have bounced back, how good oxy9 and lev are, and eg is also a wild card. kru went on a strong run too, and can’t count out loud who just got their champs mvp back

please tell me that this isn't ragebait or sarcasm 💀

#25
DBStudios
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fnatic got destroyed at shanghai by its own region, Navi is good but cannot get out of its own region, KC did horrible in playoffs

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babysasuke
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nobody___100 [#23]

somehow you managed to get everything wrong as shit
EU 1 good team, TH
vs APAC 1 good team, GenG, + washed PRX and unlucky DRX
vs Americas 9 good teams, nobody knows how sen have bounced back, how good nrg with puchan is, how g2 and 100t have bounced back, how good oxy9 and lev are, and eg is also a wild card. kru went on a strong run too, and can’t count out loud who just got their champs mvp back

lowk spittin

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kirito5133
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Congo1 [#15]

so what then? are 2 world class team o the planet only? GenG and Heretics? And thats it?? Stupidly restrictive definition of wolrd class

last time navi made playoff was 2022 champs. kc and fnatic didnt show enough internationally to cast them as world class recently. i would say fut is more deserving to be world class than kc navi and fnatic

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uwukitten
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kirito5133 [#5]

Fnatic KC and Navi are not world class team

fnatic put up a good fight against gen.g

#29
CanadaMan
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DRG alone clears EMEA

#30
61Hiko
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did he just say BBL can compete

#31
adi02
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Dorszlol20 [#20]

Worry about sen, your dogshit team couldnt even make playoffs🤣🤣

Will see how this ages..

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BairyHalls
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beaver_man [#14]

Fnatic is your second best team and they flopped and lost their best player (WASHED) 😹 EU always a 1 team region

Lost? Are you stupid or cant read?

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BairyHalls
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babysasuke [#16]

Fnatic is a world class team

They are on par with another EMEA world class team: BBL

deranged writeup, next time save the effort and don't bother

Looks like ur ass still hurts from getting pegged

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beaver_man
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BairyHalls [#32]

Lost? Are you stupid or cant read?

Leo doesn’t want to play with B0tster anymore and I don’t blame him 😭😭 imagine having to carry a 30 year old man that drops -20 every match and then cries afterwards

#35
DaBetz
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BairyHalls [#33]

Looks like ur ass still hurts from getting pegged

he thinks of chronicle every night before falling asleep

#36
Window
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fnatic world class but not fut is crazy
and navi beating the world class team allegations rn 💀

#37
babysasuke
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BairyHalls [#33]

Looks like ur ass still hurts from getting pegged

Boaster's last season ends without a Champs qual kkkkkkkkkk

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kirito5133
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kirito5133 [#27]

last time navi made playoff was 2022 champs. kc and fnatic didnt show enough internationally to cast them as world class recently. i would say fut is more deserving to be world class than kc navi and fnatic

Yep I was right. Please remove Navi from world class discussion until they make a international event.

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