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Hiro

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#1
USCK

I said nice things about him but I don’t respect Odin merchants he also betrayed SUP and completely fucked them over to just play one split of VCT

Edit: I wrote the odin part cause I was mad its not a valid point

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What happened to Leo? Benched or off the team?

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donkkomong [#2]

What happened to Leo? Benched or off the team?

taking a break for health reasons

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donkkomong [#2]

What happened to Leo? Benched or off the team?

Taking a break due to health reasons

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Lisia
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donkkomong [#2]

What happened to Leo? Benched or off the team?

https://www.vlr.gg/361620/leo-steps-down-as-fnatic-starter-hiro-to-stand-in

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You do realized SUP is the one allowing this move to go through right?

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donkkomong [#2]

What happened to Leo? Benched or off the team?

He’s had food poisoning for 5 weeks so they’re waiting for him to recover

Prayers are with him 🙏

Benched instead of b0tster because Fnatic trash org that wants to lose

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cloudberry
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Of course he's using the Odin, he's playing Sova on Ascent for crying out loud

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USCK
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donkkomong [#2]

What happened to Leo? Benched or off the team?

Benched he will probably comeback for Champs so Hiro basically destroyed the chances of his team getting ascention when they were contenders to play 1 split of VCT with Fnatic and allegedly also caused problems while leaving as well

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babysasuke [#7]

He’s had food poisoning for 5 weeks so they’re waiting for him to recover

Prayers are with him 🙏

Benched instead of b0tster because Fnatic trash org that wants to lose

what about chronicle?

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I mean... Sova on ascent is Odin paradise. I'll accept it

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nobody___100 [#10]

what about chronicle?

He’s playing rn bro wym

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cloudberry [#8]

Of course he's using the Odin, he's playing Sova on Ascent for crying out loud

100%. if he wasn't the team would be trolling.

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USCK
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Dybala21 [#6]

You do realized SUP is the one allowing this move to go through right?

Of course they did its a VCT team they weren’t just gonna hold him but they also mentioned that a lot of problems were caused while they were negotiating

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lol hater + get out of silver first.

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USCK
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cloudberry [#8]

Of course he's using the Odin, he's playing Sova on Ascent for crying out loud

Ok the odin part is just me being mad but he actually fucked over his team to play one split

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USCK [#16]

Ok the odin part is just me being mad but he actually fucked over his team to play one split

why do you think that he might just not get offer from other t1 teams after leo returns?

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USCK [#16]

Ok the odin part is just me being mad but he actually fucked over his team to play one split

Totally fair, but think about it. If you were a tier 2 superstar and got the chance to play in tier 1 (with probably like 5x the salary), wouldn't you take that offer? Especially if it's a temporary thing and you'll probably be back within a month and a bit. (Don't forget, he's a sub. He should be going back when Leo hopefully regains his health)

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USCK [#16]

Ok the odin part is just me being mad but he actually fucked over his team to play one split

Isn't that just tier2 no?

#20
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USCK [#16]

Ok the odin part is just me being mad but he actually fucked over his team to play one split

bro its his team his decisions and ofc sup allowed hiro to leave and his teammates are probably ok with it because if they were in his place they would've left too after all they all are grinding to make themselves reach Tier 1.

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xaib [#17]

why do you think that he might just not get offer from other t1 teams after leo returns?

He was probably getting one regardless

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cloudberry [#18]

Totally fair, but think about it. If you were a tier 2 superstar and got the chance to play in tier 1 (with probably like 5x the salary), wouldn't you take that offer? Especially if it's a temporary thing and you'll probably be back within a month and a bit. (Don't forget, he's a sub. He should be going back when Leo hopefully regains his health)

and it is esports if you get better opportunity elsewhere you take it just like the case of johnqt he left m80 to join sentinels and same with eeiu who also left m80 to join 100T

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its 2024, Ascent has never gone out of rotation ever.. people are still complaining about sova odin on the map...

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USCK [#9]

Benched he will probably comeback for Champs so Hiro basically destroyed the chances of his team getting ascention when they were contenders to play 1 split of VCT with Fnatic and allegedly also caused problems while leaving as well

If he looks good then it really doesnt matter. He will get a T1 spot regardless. Much higher chance of playing T1 next year then staying with supermassive

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USCK [#9]

Benched he will probably comeback for Champs so Hiro basically destroyed the chances of his team getting ascention when they were contenders to play 1 split of VCT with Fnatic and allegedly also caused problems while leaving as well

bro i’m sorry if u were in his position u would leave to play for a bigger bag and more clout too lol it’s fucking fnatic

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USCK
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cloudberry [#18]

Totally fair, but think about it. If you were a tier 2 superstar and got the chance to play in tier 1 (with probably like 5x the salary), wouldn't you take that offer? Especially if it's a temporary thing and you'll probably be back within a month and a bit. (Don't forget, he's a sub. He should be going back when Leo hopefully regains his health)

thats a valid point but after he gets his pay which is like 1 month of pay he will go back to being a free agent and it seems like his transfer caused a lot of trouble for SUP and they might not want him back after that so what will he do for the rest of the year if he is a free agent?

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Sky1k [#22]

and it is esports if you get better opportunity elsewhere you take it just like the case of johnqt he left m80 to join sentinels and same with eeiu who also left m80 to join 100T

Tbf though that was in the offseason so it's more inherently justified. Anyone's doing that (unless you're one of the homies on TGRD/G2 and you have the most loyalty on the planet)

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USCK
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Mortadelo [#21]

He was probably getting one regardless

This ^

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USCK
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Sky1k [#22]

and it is esports if you get better opportunity elsewhere you take it just like the case of johnqt he left m80 to join sentinels and same with eeiu who also left m80 to join 100T

They got signed permanently Hiro is just a sub until Leo comes back

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USCK [#26]

thats a valid point but after he gets his pay which is like 1 month of pay he will go back to being a free agent and it seems like his transfer caused a lot of trouble for SUP and they might not want him back after that so what will he do for the rest of the year if he is a free agent?

Not sure if it's accurate but on VLR it says they have 4 active players, 1 sub and 1 inactive player. Idk for sure but I think what's gonna happen is they play with OXMANN (the sub) until hiro's free to come back and re-sign

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USCK [#26]

thats a valid point but after he gets his pay which is like 1 month of pay he will go back to being a free agent and it seems like his transfer caused a lot of trouble for SUP and they might not want him back after that so what will he do for the rest of the year if he is a free agent?

he is already doing really good + hes only 18 = he will have much higher chance to get into Tier so it doesn't matter also fnatic might keep him as 6th until he gets his new job because fnatic don't have a sub currently so having hiro will be much better as fnatic players get sick often. So this means that Hiro is not screwed.

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USCK
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cloudberry [#30]

Not sure if it's accurate but on VLR it says they have 4 active players, 1 sub and 1 inactive player. Idk for sure but I think what's gonna happen is they play with OXMANN (the sub) until hiro's free to come back and re-sign

For SUP’s sake hopefully that happens since Hiro was probably gonna get a offer from t1 next year anyways

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cloudberry
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USCK [#32]

For SUP’s sake hopefully that happens since Hiro was probably gonna get a offer from t1 next year anyways

For sure

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USCK [#29]

They got signed permanently Hiro is just a sub until Leo comes back

They wouldnt have signed him if Leo was gonna come back next week. He is gonna get enough playtime to make his case on T1 stage

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xaib
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Mortadelo [#21]

He was probably getting one regardless

yeah but play one split with some of the best players to get more experience and exposure, who would not take that offer

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xaib [#35]

yeah but play one split with some of the best players to get more experience and exposure, who would not take that offer

Idk the full story but he probably could have been a bit more upfront about it with the team. But I agree it was the right choice, I’m just saying he would have proven gotten any anyway

#37
Sk00d
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man the post-gun clarity hit you hard with the odin lol

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xaib
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Mortadelo [#36]

Idk the full story but he probably could have been a bit more upfront about it with the team. But I agree it was the right choice, I’m just saying he would have proven gotten any anyway

yeah i get that

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