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good val teams each year

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2021: acend, gambit, envy, lulquid, fnatic, sentinels, g2
2022: loud, optic, drx, fnatic, fpx, prx
2023: eg, fnatic, prx, loud, nrg, drx,
2024: gen g

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nrg and drx for 2023?
2023 top 4 is the most clear out of every other year and there was a gap between top 4 and others

and 2021 - only gambit every other team were so inconsistent

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fnatic is only 2023

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2024:th asw fs? they played sen very close

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2021: GAMBIT, ACEND, SENTINELS, FNATIC, TL, ENVY, G2 (EU), 100T, GUILD
Overall Region Strength: EMEA > AMERICAS > PACIFIC

2022: OPTIC, LOUD, FPX, DRX, PRX, FNATIC
Overall Region Strength: EMEA = AMERICAS > PACIFIC

2023: FNATIC, EG, PRX, LOUD, EDG, NAVI, NRG, DRX
Overall Region Strength: AMERICAS > EMEA > PACIFIC > CHINA

2024: GENG, TH, SEN
Overall Region Strength: EMEA = AMERICAS > PACIFIC > CHINA

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but heretics are playing really well right now??

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sad_gambit_fan [#2]

nrg and drx for 2023?
2023 top 4 is the most clear out of every other year and there was a gap between top 4 and others

and 2021 - only gambit every other team were so inconsistent

1st, 5th-8th, and 9th-12th is more consistent than 1st, 2nd, DNQ but gambit was definitely 2nd behind SEN

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sad_gambit_fan [#2]

nrg and drx for 2023?
2023 top 4 is the most clear out of every other year and there was a gap between top 4 and others

and 2021 - only gambit every other team were so inconsistent

??????
ACEND was good for all of 2021 except during the time of Reykjavik 2021

They were the EU kings of 2021, while Gambit were the CIS kings and EMEA kings.

ACEND won M1 EU 2021, didnt attend Reykjavik, got 5th-8th at M3 Berlin 2021, got 1st in Champions 2021

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sentinelmain377 [#5]

2021: GAMBIT, ACEND, SENTINELS, FNATIC, TL, ENVY, G2 (EU), 100T, GUILD
Overall Region Strength: EMEA > AMERICAS > PACIFIC

2022: OPTIC, LOUD, FPX, DRX, PRX, FNATIC
Overall Region Strength: EMEA = AMERICAS > PACIFIC

2023: FNATIC, EG, PRX, LOUD, EDG, NAVI, NRG, DRX
Overall Region Strength: AMERICAS > EMEA > PACIFIC > CHINA

2024: GENG, TH, SEN
Overall Region Strength: EMEA = AMERICAS > PACIFIC > CHINA

i dont really disagree but saying emea > pacific this year is kinda crazy

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kanyefan4238173 [#9]

i dont really disagree but saying emea > pacific this year is kinda crazy

???????????????

I said "overall region strength" u dummy. Im not only comparing the top teams.
The fucking BLEED, GE, ZETA, DFM clowns are considered.

Though, even in top teams, Id still say EMEA > PACIFIC since PRX (2nd PAC) are ass and T1 & DRX are disappointments.

TH NAVI FUT FNC >>> GENG PRX DRX T1 if we added up each teams' strengths.

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sentinelmain377 [#8]

??????
ACEND was good for all of 2021 except during the time of Reykjavik 2021

They were the EU kings of 2021, while Gambit were the CIS kings and EMEA kings.

ACEND won M1 EU 2021, didnt attend Reykjavik, got 5th-8th at M3 Berlin 2021, got 1st in Champions 2021

i mean yea sure acend and gambit for 2021

every other team then were inconsistent 2021

but ur 2023 is so random

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kanyefan4238173 [#9]

i dont really disagree but saying emea > pacific this year is kinda crazy

his name is sentinelmain and likes NAVI.... this is pure SHITMEA bias. Gen G clears TH this year.

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EUisafraudregion [#12]

his name is sentinelmain and likes NAVI.... this is pure SHITMEA bias. Gen G clears TH this year.

Idiots cant fucking read. "OVERALL REGION STRENGTH"

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Psion [#7]

1st, 5th-8th, and 9th-12th is more consistent than 1st, 2nd, DNQ but gambit was definitely 2nd behind SEN

LMFAO sen?
u legit said there placements in what world is that more consistent than 1st and 2nd?
also more context to DNQ , emea was single elim and gambit lost to FNC (who got 2nd at iceland)

acend and gambit are the only 2 teams who played consistent that year

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sentinelmain377 [#10]

???????????????

I said "overall region strength" u dummy. Im not only comparing the top teams.
The fucking BLEED, GE, ZETA, DFM clowns are considered.

Though, even in top teams, Id still say EMEA > PACIFIC since PRX (2nd PAC) are ass and T1 & DRX are disappointments.

TH NAVI FUT FNC >>> GENG PRX DRX T1 if we added up each teams' strengths.

dont call me a dummy i know what you read

itd be fair to say emea=pacific

apac has decent teams like drx and talon which they didnt send but emea was a game off of sending fraudmine corp

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bruh you just pasted each years champ standings nothing else

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sentinelmain377 [#13]

Idiots cant fucking read. "OVERALL REGION STRENGTH"

Lol.. so you are saying TH FNC clear GENG PRX this year????

You are an idiot. Entire region strength? How are you basing this opinion? IS NAVI FACING DRX? or RRQ or SECRET?

What tournament? How are you judging moron where the teams aren't in the same league. Biased AF SHITMEA fan.

Are you dumb?

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sad_gambit_fan [#14]

LMFAO sen?
u legit said there placements in what world is that more consistent than 1st and 2nd?
also more context to DNQ , emea was single elim and gambit lost to FNC (who got 2nd at iceland)

acend and gambit are the only 2 teams who played consistent that year

so was berlin and champs playoffs in 2021
discluding them missing reykjavik means we can disclude everything that happened in 2021 because every event had single elim at some point or another whether it was a qualifier or playoffs. (and single elim isn't even bad, its just preference)

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kanyefan4238173 [#15]

dont call me a dummy i know what you read

itd be fair to say emea=pacific

apac has decent teams like drx and talon which they didnt send but emea was a game off of sending fraudmine corp

thas cuz of the format dumass

NAVI is better than KC and TL (you can look at the fucking games if you need proof)

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sentinelmain377 [#19]

thas cuz of the format dumass

NAVI is better than KC and TL (you can look at the fucking games if you need proof)

no i agree with you

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kanyefan4238173 [#20]

no i agree with you

then u shouldnt be using this point:
"but emea was a game off of sending fraudmine corp"

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sentinelmain377 [#21]

then u shouldnt be using this point:
"but emea was a game off of sending fraudmine corp"

fraudmine corp trash, lulquid trash, gm8s trash, vitality trash, giantx trash

koi goated

karmine corp deserved 4th or 5th and thats what they got which shows emea isnt that deep, neither is pacific tho but still

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EUisafraudregion [#17]

Lol.. so you are saying TH FNC clear GENG PRX this year????

You are an idiot. Entire region strength? How are you basing this opinion? IS NAVI FACING DRX? or RRQ or SECRET?

What tournament? How are you judging moron where the teams aren't in the same league. Biased AF SHITMEA fan.

Are you dumb?

  1. well, if we only compare top 2 teams, then PACIFIC > EMEA. I was comparing top 4 of each region.
  2. EMEA gameplay, strats, etc > PACIFIC gameplay, strats, etc. Have u watched any pacific game with BLEED, GE, DFM, ZETA??? These teams are as bad as like KOI and KC in 2023. Right now, M8 is prob the worst EMEA team since KOI and GX are on the rise up, but M8 clears all of them LMFAO.
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Psion [#18]

so was berlin and champs playoffs in 2021
discluding them missing reykjavik means we can disclude everything that happened in 2021 because every event had single elim at some point or another whether it was a qualifier or playoffs. (and single elim isn't even bad, its just preference)

what are u saying?? i said giving more context and just said they lost to #2 iceland in a single elim game

and are u seriously trying to say sen were better in 2021 than gambit who won a event and made champs final?

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sad_gambit_fan [#24]

what are u saying?? i said giving more context and just said they lost to #2 iceland in a single elim game

and are u seriously trying to say sen were better in 2021 than gambit who won a event and made champs final?

no im not saying they were better don't put words in my mouth
i am saying they were more consistent
gambit had higher highs and lower lows

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kanyefan4238173 [#22]

fraudmine corp trash, lulquid trash, gm8s trash, vitality trash, giantx trash

koi goated

karmine corp deserved 4th or 5th and thats what they got which shows emea isnt that deep, neither is pacific tho but still

sentinelmain just said PRX is trash after an off event (which they still made playoffs). Consistently and arguably the best team over the last two years.

..................... Literally doesn't know anything. PRX = 2nd Place at Champions, Made Madrid and Shanghai Playoffs.

Kid is just a baiting d0uche.

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EUisafraudregion [#26]

sentinelmain just said PRX is trash after an off event (which they still made playoffs). Consistently and arguably the best team over the last two years.

..................... Literally doesn't know anything. PRX = 2nd Place at Champions, Made Madrid and Shanghai Playoffs.

Kid is just a baiting d0uche.

i usually like sentinelmain377 but he is highkey geeking rn defending this 2024 emea > pacific opinion

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Psion [#25]

no im not saying they were better don't put words in my mouth
i am saying they were more consistent
gambit had higher highs and lower lows

"lower lows" when gambit still making 2 events final

but not sen losing their dominance over na by getting outplaced by envy and 100t and getting grouped by latam at champs

like how can even argue by saying "consistency" when gambit made 2 FINALS when SEN GOT GROUPED and dead last in the other 2

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sad_gambit_fan [#28]

"lower lows" when gambit still making 2 events final

but not sen losing their dominance over na by getting outplaced by envy and 100t and getting grouped by latam at champs

like how can even argue by saying "consistency" when gambit made 2 FINALS when SEN GOT GROUPED and dead last in the other 2

yes they had lower lows
DNQ is a lower low than 9th-12th
and SEN losing their dominance doesn't make their low lower than DNQ because they still qualified for events?
edit: they never even lost to 100T in 2021 where the fuck did u get that info from

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sentinelmain377 [#23]
  1. well, if we only compare top 2 teams, then PACIFIC > EMEA. I was comparing top 4 of each region.
  2. EMEA gameplay, strats, etc > PACIFIC gameplay, strats, etc. Have u watched any pacific game with BLEED, GE, DFM, ZETA??? These teams are as bad as like KOI and KC in 2023. Right now, M8 is prob the worst EMEA team since KOI and GX are on the rise up, but M8 clears all of them LMFAO.

Top 4 of Pacific and EMEA..... Pacific clears.

PRX GenG DRX T1 clear FNC TH FUT and your shit NAVI ...

lol.... don't even get me started on Ange1 kid. The only team worth talking about in Eur0pe is TH at the moment.

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EUisafraudregion [#30]

Top 4 of Pacific and EMEA..... Pacific clears.

PRX GenG DRX T1 clear FNC TH FUT and your shit NAVI ...

lol.... don't even get me started on Ange1 kid. The only team worth talking about in Eur0pe is TH at the moment.

holy delusion.
Im just hoping your baiting and you seriously dont think this.

but if you do, Im not conversing with you anymore cuz ur just biased lmfao.

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Psion [#29]

yes they had lower lows
DNQ is a lower low than 9th-12th
and SEN losing their dominance doesn't make their low lower than DNQ because they still qualified for events?
edit: they never even lost to 100T in 2021 where the fuck did u get that info from

so u think qualifying to 3/3 to do bad in 2/3 is more consistent than making finals in 2/3?

cant argue with u anymore , just google up consistency

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sentinelmain377 [#31]

holy delusion.
Im just hoping your baiting and you seriously dont think this.

but if you do, Im not conversing with you anymore cuz ur just biased lmfao.

Maybe... but you can't prove your point. and that's all im saying.

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sad_gambit_fan [#32]

so u think qualifying to 3/3 to do bad in 2/3 is more consistent than making finals in 2/3?

cant argue with u anymore , just google up consistency

5th-8th while beating one of the 3rd-4th teams and losing to the 2nd placed team in playoffs isn't a bad placement at all, just keep making shit up i guess
you need to look up the definition of consistency
making 3/3 events with 1st, 5th-8th, and 9th-12th is more consistent than gambit making finals in 2 and DNQ in 1
the range between the high of 1st and the low of DNQ is so much bigger than 1st and 9th-12th.

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EUisafraudregion [#12]

his name is sentinelmain and likes NAVI.... this is pure SHITMEA bias. Gen G clears TH this year.

Lets be fr, PRX DRX GenG clears EU top 4 midass teams.

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sentinelmain377 [#31]

holy delusion.
Im just hoping your baiting and you seriously dont think this.

but if you do, Im not conversing with you anymore cuz ur just biased lmfao.

GiantX crushed NAVI. Navi now 0-6 last six maps.

EU is a better region than Pacific? Your delu takes are hilarious!

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