- Sen TenZ - Regional Masters, Challengers, Masters Reykjavik
- TH Patitek - Masters Madrid, 2024 EMEA League, Masters Shanghai
- Prx Cgrs - Valorant One, Pacific League, Masters Tokyo
- FPX Seider - Masters Copenhagen
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DBStudios [#4]prx fan with the PTSD of copenhagen 💀
He was kinda mid though ngl, sure he got them thru groups but he also forced them into lowers and dipped
Aayan [#3]
- Patitek
- TenZ
- CGRS
- Seider
lmao? TenZ won an event , the highest ACS of any tournament and won without dropping a map.
nice emshit bait 💯 💯💯
Aayan [#7]He was kinda mid though ngl, sure he got them thru groups but he also forced them into lowers and dipped
It wasn't Seider's fault for losing that match plus the fact that they even got through groups with a sub that has never interacted with the team before is already impressive enough for him
mocaxoxo [#10]tenz was the mvp and won them a tournament
come on bro
TenZ was good. But I think now it's much harder to get further as a sub, simply because of how strategically deep the game has become.
Aayan [#11]TenZ was good. But I think now it's much harder to get further as a sub, simply because of how strategically deep the game has become.
what are you saying dawg a sub's job is hard no matter what era of the game you are in. TenZ had no interaction with the team to bond or create relationships and this goes with subs throughout any era. At least Patitek has already played an international LAN with TH at this point he's basically already part of the team.
Shawn23 [#8]lmao? TenZ won an event , the highest ACS of any tournament and won without dropping a map.
nice emshit bait 💯 💯💯
we simply cannot reward ancient era players over the modern age. the game has evolved.
DBStudios [#14]what are you saying dawg a sub's job is hard no matter what era of the game you are in. TenZ had no interaction with the team to bond or create relationships and this goes with subs throughout any era. At least Patitek has already played an international LAN with TH at this point he's basically already part of the team.
didn't he just lock duelist and go kill? what bond do you need to do that
DBStudios [#14]what are you saying dawg a sub's job is hard no matter what era of the game you are in. TenZ had no interaction with the team to bond or create relationships and this goes with subs throughout any era. At least Patitek has already played an international LAN with TH at this point he's basically already part of the team.
You could throw any superstar into any team back then and have a 40% chance they'll win whatever tournament they're playing. TenZ also had the whole of Masters 1 and the interim between reykjavik. It's obviously not easy to play as a sub so I question why you point that out. What I'm comparing is the relative difficulty stacked up against one another, then using that comparison to rank the impact each sub had on their respective team. TH expected to have miniboo for this event, it was a last minute call. SEN absolutely knew TenZ was going to play at Masters 2 months in advance
TM06Nick [#15]we simply cannot reward ancient era players over the modern age. the game has evolved.
still won a major. patitek hasnt YET. we'll see.
but also i think he's right that tenz still has the highest acs at any tournament ever. its one of the best performances of any competitive fps game ever (LAN).
DBStudios [#14]what are you saying dawg a sub's job is hard no matter what era of the game you are in. TenZ had no interaction with the team to bond or create relationships and this goes with subs throughout any era. At least Patitek has already played an international LAN with TH at this point he's basically already part of the team.
you cant leave out that tenz knew most of his teammates for years from cs and played with them a lot in FPL, it wasnt like it was his one of his first times interacting with them
game was also under a year old, most teams didnt play in any sort of standard or solid way and thats why duelists shined so much back then
imo it is much, MUCH harder for patitek than it was for tenz and would easily put him as a the better sub (considering the circumstances)
DBStudios [#14]what are you saying dawg a sub's job is hard no matter what era of the game you are in. TenZ had no interaction with the team to bond or create relationships and this goes with subs throughout any era. At least Patitek has already played an international LAN with TH at this point he's basically already part of the team.
are u FUCKING DUM??
TenZ played with Sentinels in Masters 1 NA and had 23 MATCHES with SEN before Reykjavik 2021.
Meanwhile, Patitek's sub situation was completely an emergency for Shanghai 2024 and Patitek only played 9 MATCHES with TH before Shanghai.
liltrapster [#13]FNC kamyk #5
oh true, had to come in for alfajer AND he filled his role which is kinda underrated as the other players here were accommodated for.
also had really good stats, not losing a game
and if he didnt play as good as he did haven against giants they lose the series prob
sentinelmain377 [#23]are u FUCKING DUM??
TenZ played with Sentinels in Masters 1 NA and had 23 MATCHES with SEN before Reykjavik 2021.
Meanwhile, Patitek's sub situation was completely an emergency for Shanghai 2024 and Patitek only played 9 MATCHES with TH before Shanghai.
You calling me dumb is actually hella funny. TenZ only played that much because back then there were WAY more teams that they had to play to qualify for masters but if you look at it the time when he joined and the time when he won Iceland is only 2 months apart. While if you look over at paTiTek he joined the roster in February (not even including the time during the offseason where he was their stand-in because of wo0t) and the time they lost to fnatic in the GF where miniboo said he wouldn't attend Shanghai is 3 months apart. I don't know about you but having THAT much time with one team is surely to make more bonds than with someone who just randomly pulled up to your team because one of your players got into some major drama so your point is just completely stupid lmao.
DBStudios [#25]You calling me dumb is actually hella funny. TenZ only played that much because back then there were WAY more teams that they had to play to qualify for masters but if you look at it the time when he joined and the time when he won Iceland is only 2 months apart. While if you look over at paTiTek he joined the roster in February (not even including the time during the offseason where he was their stand-in because of wo0t) and the time they lost to fnatic in the GF where miniboo said he wouldn't attend Shanghai is 3 months apart. I don't know about you but having THAT much time with one team is surely to make more bonds than with someone who just randomly pulled up to your team because one of your players got into some major drama so your point is just completely stupid lmao.
TH released patitek before during group stage btw.
Patitek was an emergency sub and HERETICS have literally said that their first practice with Patitek again was on Shanghai Day 1. Team Heretics first match was TH vs DRG (on Shanghai Day 2)
sentinelmain377 [#26]TH released patitek before during group stage btw.
Patitek was an emergency sub and HERETICS have literally said that their first practice with Patitek again was on Shanghai Day 1. Team Heretics first match was TH vs DRG (on Shanghai Day 2)
https://www.vlr.gg/349509/patitek-returns-to-heretics-as-stand-in
Confirmed a week before shanghai and Patitek already had practice and bonds with the team. Me when you pull random things out of your ass and try to pass it on as real information 🤯
DBStudios [#27]https://www.vlr.gg/349509/patitek-returns-to-heretics-as-stand-in
Confirmed a week before shanghai and Patitek already had practice and bonds with the team. Me when you pull random things out of your ass and try to pass it on as real information 🤯
You really think TH would confirm the sub on the day of the start of the tournament or some BS???
when you pull random things out of your ass and try to pass it on as real informationI have no reason to do that. Heretics literally said they started practicing with patitek on Shanghai Day 1. Plus Heretics had to shift roles because of this (w00t going to duelist and patitek going to support (w00t's previous role)) so previous practice in terms of what they will do in game doesnt even matter Lmfao. I cant with how brainwashed and biased yall are.
sentinelmain377 [#28]You really think TH would confirm the sub on the day of the start of the tournament or some BS???
when you pull random things out of your ass and try to pass it on as real informationI have no reason to do that. Heretics literally said they started practicing with patitek on Shanghai Day 1. Plus Heretics had to shift roles because of this (w00t going to duelist and patitek going to support (w00t's previous role)) so previous practice in terms of what they will do in game doesnt even matter Lmfao. I cant with how brainwashed and biased yall are.
so you got proof of where they stated that? or is that just something that you pulled out your ass because that hasn't been cleared up with...
DBStudios [#29]so you got proof of where they stated that? or is that just something that you pulled out your ass because that hasn't been cleared up with...
its in more than 1 interview, here's 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOBJHoth4iA
go to 2:50 in the interview
Benjy says they only practiced for 1 day before DRG match.
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