Which org fall hard in valorant/csgo ?

For me Optic and Faze in valo

Faze in CSGO still fine

Envy

Liquid in CS. More specifically the roster with Simple. If only they didn't choke so much.

Gambit in Valorant.

Fnatic is cs
For val if it was b4 kickoff I would have said sentinels but now it would be acend

reremus [#4]

Liquid in CS. More specifically the roster with Simple. If only they didn't choke so much.

Gambit in Valorant.

putin is at fault for gambit, acend is 100% the better choice

ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

Envy

1. ACEND (2021 EU Kings, not all of EMEA or CIS)
2. ENVY/OPTIC

sentinelmain377 [#7]

1. ACEND (2021 EU Kings, not all of EMEA or CIS)
2. ENVY/OPTIC

sen is thriving wdym

Burgru [#8]

sen is thriving wdym

well
yeah

but they fell off so hard in 2022 and 2023

edit: wait im stupid

reremus [#4]

Liquid in CS. More specifically the roster with Simple. If only they didn't choke so much.

Gambit in Valorant.

Gambit was literally putin being putin. cant blame that

Er3ngenes1s [#10]

Gambit was literally putin being putin. cant blame that

yea but it doesn't say which org fell off because of its own stupidity. Regardless of the reason, Gambit unfortunately dissolved and fell off.

reremus [#11]

yea but it doesn't say which org fell off because of its own stupidity. Regardless of the reason, Gambit unfortunately dissolved and fell off.

u cant say they fell off when they didnt even exist in the first place during the dissolution

ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

Envy

Envy became Optic, they had a great run as Optic until franchising

Brobbee [#6]

putin is at fault for gambit, acend is 100% the better choice

Acend had a dark horse run in Champs, it was the greatest fluke so far in Valorant history

Acend for val