Please get some foreign analysts.
either get after coaching for his coaching or get him fired
find a new igl if haodong doesnt work
change your playstyle go back to what you used to do.
stop throwing kang kang into a bloody site and expecting him to kill everyone there. like ardiss said his style is beautiful if it works your making him look so shit.
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peetherium [#2]I'm like 99% sure Haodong is just trying to listen to whatever AfteR's gameplan is. He was so much more comfortable last year
inting after. his slow default is doing worse than a ranked run it down.
the_invincible49 [#3]Bro Kangkang needs to shoot as well and stop being a awp merchant. Where was his entry? where were his sachtels? Clearing nothing while satcheling back site B straight into the wall.
What can he do alone in a stacked site tho? He doesn't get any support in utility from his teammates. Only smoggy has looked good.
zhongZHI [#4]inting after. his slow default is doing worse than a ranked run it down.
yeah he needs to be fucking FIRED
the_invincible49 [#3]Bro Kangkang needs to shoot as well and stop being a awp merchant. Where was his entry? where were his sachtels? Clearing nothing while satcheling back site B straight into the wall.
he oped once. after is making him rifle more like how he was in madrid. but why not give the man an op if ur gonna slow default.
peetherium [#2]I'm like 99% sure Haodong is just trying to listen to whatever AfteR's gameplan is. He was so much more comfortable last year
what's your logic? after's been their coach for more than two years
lucidity0000 [#9]what's your logic? after's been their coach for more than two years
what he did worked for one year and he decided to change it. if it aint broke why fix it bruh. we slow defaulting on attack with a cracked oper. if ur gonna slow default give him an op to get some picks.
after is forcing edg into a playstyle they dont really suit.
EDG need foreign analysts
Liotakla [#6]What can he do alone in a stacked site tho? He doesn't get any support in utility from his teammates. Only smoggy has looked good.
He can kill one or two and not waste his nade on an orb.
zhongZHI [#8]he oped once. after is making him rifle more like how he was in madrid. but why not give the man an op if ur gonna slow default.
Awp needs money bro. They didn't win shit so they had no money and his repositioning was shit when he oped.
Liotakla [#6]What can he do alone in a stacked site tho? He doesn't get any support in utility from his teammates. Only smoggy has looked good.
On sunset what was he doing? He only has benjy and reins to clear so many times.
These EDG players thought they can emulate FPX slow game and win and ended up not planting the spike 3 times.
Play your own game and shoot the gun. Have a free site then plant why take a 1v1.
the_invincible49 [#12]Awp needs money bro. They didn't win shit so they had no money and his repositioning was shit when he oped.
Bruh major problem for edg rn is their playstyle rn not kk. Why are they trying so hard to change their playstyle? At least were more fun to watch in past. And it was the same in madrid too he was doing everything alone. Edg coordination just looks too weak too compared to last year.
lucidity0000 [#9]what's your logic? after's been their coach for more than two years
- Sword9 was the assistant coach
- He joined around a month before Masters Tokyo (where they noticeably performed)
- After he left EDG's general gameplay has taken an absolute nosedive in quality
Get Yoman to IGL instead of Haodong no? I feel like they are so lost on the map
It seems like they lack firepower from the other guys too
Like there are better players than Nobody and Haodong (They both had great Tokyo but we didnt see that performance since then)
For example AAAAY seems more consistent and straight up better initiator so him and Yoman who was IGL in China last year would be good pickups no?
Liotakla [#14]Bruh major problem for edg rn is their playstyle rn not kk. Why are they trying so hard to change their playstyle? At least were more fun to watch in past. And it was the same in madrid too he was doing everything alone. Edg coordination just looks too weak too compared to last year.
its a fake belief that they can win 1v1 all the time, going for their 50/50s like they got nothing else to play with in the game.
milostoj [#16]Get Yoman to IGL instead of Haodong no? I feel like they are so lost on the map
It seems like they lack firepower from the other guys too
Like there are better players than Nobody and Haodong (They both had great Tokyo but we didnt see that performance since then)
For example AAAAY seems more consistent and straight up better initiator so him and Yoman who was IGL in China last year would be good pickups no?
Bro chichoo was saving them so hard on sunset. What you talking about?
the_invincible49 [#3]Bro Kangkang needs to shoot as well and stop being a awp merchant. Where was his entry? where were his sachtels? Clearing nothing while satcheling back site B straight into the wall.
you say that as if entrying is so easy if you dont have the right support or timing ?? if u entry and die ppl are gonna say ure inting, if u dont entry ppl are gonna say ure baiting. his duelist is fine its a matter of strategies and coaching
the_invincible49 [#18]Bro chichoo was saving them so hard on sunset. What you talking about?
Yea I meant Haodong, thats why I an talking about IGL and Ini swap
baovlr [#19]you say that as if entrying is so easy if you dont have the right support or timing ?? if u entry and die ppl are gonna say ure inting, if u dont entry ppl are gonna say ure baiting. his duelist is fine its a matter of strategies and coaching
hes expected to somehow burst outta a viper orb and kill a high low crossfire flying like wtf why bother
baovlr [#19]you say that as if entrying is so easy if you dont have the right support or timing ?? if u entry and die ppl are gonna say ure inting, if u dont entry ppl are gonna say ure baiting. his duelist is fine its a matter of strategies and coaching
I am not saying entrying is easy. but you are talking about the most hyped player in the region. Don't you expect him to get the first kill atleast or atleast take a 1v1.
I know the strategy was shitty but he was about to pie at a moment in map2.
peetherium [#7]yeah he needs to be fucking FIRED
please hire a fucking translator and a na coach for christ sake
peetherium [#15]
- Sword9 was the assistant coach
- He joined around a month before Masters Tokyo (where they noticeably performed)
- After he left EDG's general gameplay has taken an absolute nosedive in quality
I wouldn't say sword9 had that much of an effect. The style EDG played was the same from 2023 lock:in all the way to tokyo. But you can see After gradually wanting them to change more into a fnatic style team
zhongZHI [#23]please hire a fucking translator and a na coach for christ sake
nah being completely real DestroyeR would probably be the best possible decision. his timeout stats are fucking insane and his calls tend to be on the mark even when Trace shit the bed
xSaneZ [#24]I wouldn't say sword9 had that much of an effect. The style EDG played was the same from 2023 lock:in all the way to tokyo. But you can see After gradually wanting them to change more into a fnatic style team
i'll agree that the style was the same but they were way more drilled & actually adapted. their system feels completely different and the only way I feel like it could be explained is that AfteR has complete control & changed it without any pushback
What I've heard from fans is that AfteR has been on fraudwatch within the CN community for a long time. This new playstyle of theirs looks AWFUL for the players. They're not comfortable at all. Haodong and Nobody might need to go at this point, or at least get a different IGL. The difference between EDG and FPX in Shanghai is like night and day.
milostoj [#16]Get Yoman to IGL instead of Haodong no? I feel like they are so lost on the map
It seems like they lack firepower from the other guys too
Like there are better players than Nobody and Haodong (They both had great Tokyo but we didnt see that performance since then)
For example AAAAY seems more consistent and straight up better initiator so him and Yoman who was IGL in China last year would be good pickups no?
They should sign stax
geospliced [#28]They should sign stax
Would he speak chinese tho? I think Yoman can do it because he was IGL in chinese teams and I doubt Stax can do it
If he would speak their language he would be really good signing as well ofc
the_invincible49 [#22]I am not saying entrying is easy. but you are talking about the most hyped player in the region. Don't you expect him to get the first kill atleast or atleast take a 1v1.
I know the strategy was shitty but he was about to pie at a moment in map2.
i feel like he (well all of edg too) just kept getting shut down by th, they were exceptionally insane today. maybe im just making excuses but thats how i see it :(
milostoj [#29]Would he speak chinese tho? I think Yoman can do it because he was IGL in chinese teams and I doubt Stax can do it
If he would speak their language he would be really good signing as well ofc
Yeah probably not but stax is goated in terms of IGLing
geospliced [#31]Yeah probably not but stax is goated in terms of IGLing
Well yes, but if you cant speak the language IGLing would be hard I guess
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