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STAGE 2 TALKS COME

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#1
envyz

what teams do you think that played insane in Stage 1 do you think will be exposed in Stage 2 + what teams that missed Shanghai do you think will be way better in time for Stage 2?

C9 - they had a really good stage 1 but all of their success is off the back of OXY they don't have a solidified second option + they have a below average macro,

G2 - Rely on too many hero plays and usually tend to throw rounds aren't at the level as teams like 100T and SEN (in their best form) their reads/gambles rarely tend to pay off and they don't condition their opponents well to a point where they are constantly worried about lurks/set plays.

FNATIC - A very fluke win vs Team Heretics in the Stage 1 Grand Final they don't look like they are in their 2023 Form at all.

NRG - they will have a better second stage, they haven't had success with Victor primary duelist but they do have a very good chance at competing with teams like Gen.G.

Honorable Mentions
SEN - won Madrid but nose dived right after have played the second most rounds this season and burnt out in Stage 1 but I believe they will come back hungry and debatably be better than they we're in Madrid, adding consistency they have a lot of off days + i've heard they've been frying in scrims.

DRX - they've parted ways with Stax but they have a very good roster I think they will definitely be good for Stage 2 if their new igl can untie a lot of their knots and find new levels of success in stage 2 .

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Teemoonduty
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FNC fluke win against TH? lol

#3
envyz
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Teemoonduty [#2]

FNC fluke win against TH? lol

TH threw 2 maps letting FNC back in the series yes it is a massive fluke

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CoCloudy
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how tf do G2 rely too much on hero plays???
this recency bias to the max
They literally had one game out of their entire season so far (th v g2)
where they actually won js off hero plays

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StyrofoamOne
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CoCloudy [#4]

how tf do G2 rely too much on hero plays???
this recency bias to the max
They literally had one game out of their entire season so far (th v g2)
where they actually won js off hero plays

every game is kindof a leaf hard carry with someone else stepping up as well and then everyone else is quite negative (-5 -> 10)

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Kirya
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Stop overrating midrg

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envyz
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CoCloudy [#4]

how tf do G2 rely too much on hero plays???
this recency bias to the max
They literally had one game out of their entire season so far (th v g2)
where they actually won js off hero plays

vs LEV? vs 100T? most of their round wins we're either thrown rounds or someone getting 3 or 2 to equalize.

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makesung
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Stage 2 in my opinion :
Talon got a chance to be in master again I think they just lost 9-13 on 3rd map against PRX
FPX has a chance to be top1 china
NRG should be in playoff (s0m FNS carry)
NAVI to Champion
RRQ to playoff

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_amBrian
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envyz [#7]

vs LEV? vs 100T? most of their round wins we're either thrown rounds or someone getting 3 or 2 to equalize.

someone getting 3 or 2 to equalize

so... playing the game while at a man disadvantage?

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envyz
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_amBrian [#9]

someone getting 3 or 2 to equalize

so... playing the game while at a man disadvantage?

yes hero plays, as in they don't trade good when you need to get 2 or 3 to equalize that means you don't tend to trade well which they don't.

#11
annoybrocc02
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"G2 relies a lot on hero plays" is literally the worst take I've seen in the past 24 hours

#12
envyz
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annoybrocc02 [#11]

"G2 relies a lot on hero plays" is literally the worst take I've seen in the past 24 hours

going off the of the past 2 games i can actually say this not even including the LEV + 100T series.

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Monsteiur
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Not sure about about the g2 take but if they go 0-2 in the playoff then that might be the case

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envyz
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Monsteiur [#13]

Not sure about about the g2 take but if they go 0-2 in the playoff then that might be the case

watching them play vs LOUD 100T LEV series alone there are so many rounds that we're thrown by the opposing team or somebody getting 2 or 3 to make it winnable.

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