Final All Year Region Ranking

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sentinelmain377

2021: EMEA > AMER > PAC
2022: EMEA = AMER > PAC
2023: AMER > EMEA > PAC > CN
2024: EMEA > PAC = AMER > CN

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Yeah sure 2023 NA won Champs and Best Region for sure...

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rest of EMEA was trash

however, this year it is the opposite

AMER and APAC have the better top teams, but EMEA has better teams overall

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Holy cope. It is NOT an achievement if your teams just barely beat China and third place in americas. Both games were 2-1 today, so there's no need to act like EMEA is back, or is so good again all of a sudden. I can't wait for playoffs to humble you delusional fools.

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sentinelmain377

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"overall region strength"

not about the top teams!!!

also TH still has the sub situation and way less practice than other teams on the roles they are on rn (which we are ignoring)

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And your acting like Americas has 5+ teams that are good enough to play well at a masters.

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2024: emea

3 wins total, 2 of them being against CN

Sure buddy they’re the best

2022:

Amer 2 trophies, emea 1 but yea they equal alright

#4

sentinelmain377

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overall region strength exists btw

this isnt just about the top teams

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emea is def the most well rounded league but emea hasnt even been to an int finals yet this year

let fut win shanghai then we talk

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KRATOSmimir21

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If u want to consider overall then emea goes 3rd or last in 2023. Everybody but fnc was atrocious

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KRATOSmimir21

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If u want to consider overall then emea goes 3rd or last in 2023. Everybody but fnc was atrocious

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sentinelmain377

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same goes for AMERICAS in 2022
remove OPTIC for NA and LOUD for BR

where tf is the rest of the region in 2022 lolz?

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2022 was only FPX for EMEA and even then they didnt do much. Overall strength is 2021 for emea only. Americas has stronger teams

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KRATOSmimir21

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2 teams > 1 team (Navi)

Remove Navi and 1 America but theres still 1 team who won for amer

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Psion

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same for EMEA in 2022
remove FPX and FNC
placements:
6th, 8th reykjavik
8th copenhagen
8th champs
AMER without LOUD/optic
reyk: 8th
copenhagen: 6th, 8th
champs: 6th,8th

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sentinelmain377

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bro are u dum
EMEA only had 3 slots, while AMERICAS had like 6 in champs, 5 in reykjavik 2022, 5 in copenhagen 2022

if your gonna remove 2/3 of the teams, no shit its gonna look worse, your ranking the 3rd best team

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Psion

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if you say bro what you are dumb

#27

sentinelmain377

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please make a solid argument next time

edit: nice editing ur comment before the 5 min mark

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sentinelmain377

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please be reasonable next time thank you

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sentinelmain377

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also PACIFIC is still worse than EMEA

in LOCK//IN only 3/10 teams won their first match (worse than EMEA results)
in Tokyo PRX got 3rd, DRX got 7th-8th, and T1 got 9th-10th (worse than EMEA results)
in C23, PRX got 2nd, DRX got 5th-6th, and T1 ZETA got grouped (worse than EMEA results)

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KRATOSmimir21

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Bruh u can’t say u want to factor in overall region teams and then look at international results only. Pick one

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sentinelmain377

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DUDE??
ARE YOU REALLY FUCKING SAYING THAT PACIFIC WITHOUT PRX DRX T1 ZETA is BETTER THAN REST OF EMEA in 2023

I cant with how much you all have been BRAINWASHED BY AMERICAS AND APAC PROPAGANDA

Holy shit

#31

KRATOSmimir21

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U just named 4 pac teams when eu had 1 maybe two with Navi

Last time I checked 4 > 2

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sentinelmain377

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0/8 holy fuck

its cuz I was talking about the teams that attended internationally

please try to have a smarter conversation instead of wasting my time

#33

KRATOSmimir21

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Take ur own advice

Said it elsewhere, u can’t look at overall region cause of bias. Only looking at tourney ur rankings are wrong simply put

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sentinelmain377

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I have a question?
Do you actually believe PACIFIC > EMEA in 2023?
if so, we can end this conversation because you are dumb asf

continue thread →

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Sir_Johnny123

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2021 EMEA
2022 America (Fluke masters 1)
2023 EMEA
2024 America (so far)

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sentinelmain377

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2022 is not AMERICAS
it is equal

Also NA was a 1 team region (OPTC) and BR was 1 team (LOUD)
everyone else in AMERICAS was horrendous

remember how good top 7 EU was (FNATIC FPX G2 GUILD TL GAMBIT(M3C) ACEND)
even OG-LDNUTD BIG FOKUS looked good

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Fair comment.

2023 was Definitely Fnatics.

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you are wrong
copenhagen 3 americas teams 3 EMEA
istanbul 4 americas teams 3 EMEA

#13

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americas sits emea down in 2022, we had loud and optic and emea only had fpx

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sentinelmain377

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its overall region strength
why would it just be about the top teams?

also look at 2022 for EMEA without FPX, then look at 2022 for AMERICAS without OPTC LOUD
EMEA still looks decent without FPX, but AMERICAS looks horrible without OPTC LOUD

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So remove 1 from emea but 2 from America?

How does that make any sense

Doesn’t matter what the regions were before its combined now

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sentinelmain377

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thas why I made AMERICAS = EMEA

the top 7 of EMEA in 2022 all looked great (overall region strength)

only like OPTC LOUD XSET and TGRD looked decent in 2022 for AMERICAS (separate regions btw)

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KRATOSmimir21

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7 from emea looked good?

What a delusional take

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sentinelmain377

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it was 2022
not 2023-2024

FPX FNC GUILD M3C(GAMBIT) TL ACEND and G2 were all great

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KRATOSmimir21

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Yea ik

What 7 are you talking about tf

Also other point, u can’t take in overall region cause they don’t play each other. Our bias is gonna say one is better than other. You can only look at international results which means ur rankings are wrong simple

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I mean, Guild was able to beat Optic and Loud, but outside of them and FPX it wasn't really close compared to the top AM teams. I get your part about regional depth, so I'd throw up how Xset was able to beat Fnatic and FPX at times, 100T was able to beat Fnatic, Lev was at that same tier. In NA, teams like Faze, NRG, Guard, and EG were able to challenge those globally recognized NA teams.

If we want to be abstract about regional contenders, it's about equal between just NA and EMEA. If we want international contenders, arguably AM would be placed higher. And, if we look at the peaks, Optic and Loud were a step ahend of everyone else (worst case, FPX was there too).

I'd be more tempted to put AM = EMEA 2023 than EMEA = AM 2022.

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sentinelmain377

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reykjavik 2022 though?
if FPX was there, they win for sure bruh

they won EMEA grand finals with a sub