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#1
Costofequity

game actually gets easier the more you rank up

its easier to play vs 5 immortals with 4 immortal teammates

than to play vs 5 plats with 4 plat teammates

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Just_some_loser
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Team oriented game brother, better/higher level teamplay = games feeling easier

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AutismCanBeCured
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Just_some_loser [#2]

Team oriented game brother, better/higher level teamplay = games feeling easier

Also in higher ranks if you yourself have a bad game, teammates actually have the ability to carry, in plat or lower if you don't drop 35 you lose

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AutismCanBeCured [#3]

Also in higher ranks if you yourself have a bad game, teammates actually have the ability to carry, in plat or lower if you don't drop 35 you lose

that has nothing to do with my point

low elo its literally bait central everyone is baiting everyone

the higher u go the more ur teammates trade

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laifu
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game is most difficult in low ascendant/high diamond

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Costofequity [#4]

that has nothing to do with my point

low elo its literally bait central everyone is baiting everyone

the higher u go the more ur teammates trade

The entire game is bait central cause everyone plays for kills, people are so afraid of taking fights even when you throw every single piece of util you have for them, rank doesn't change it at all, in immortal 2 you still get 1-2 people every single game lurking across the map having close to no impact

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Psion
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this is true in most team games lol

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Zerphyr1
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AutismCanBeCured [#6]

The entire game is bait central cause everyone plays for kills, people are so afraid of taking fights even when you throw every single piece of util you have for them, rank doesn't change it at all, in immortal 2 you still get 1-2 people every single game lurking across the map having close to no impact

u can still have major impact by lurking? It's only when ur team commits to taking a site in which lurking can become problematic but lurking is very good for map control

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Zerphyr1 [#8]

u can still have major impact by lurking? It's only when ur team commits to taking a site in which lurking can become problematic but lurking is very good for map control

Its good if you know what you're doing, 99% of the people in immortal 1-2 have no clue what they're doing when lurking, especially when they're lurking with reyna or jett or some shit like morons, they're just doing it to get frags to feed their egoes

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AutismCanBeCured [#9]

Its good if you know what you're doing, 99% of the people in immortal 1-2 have no clue what they're doing when lurking, especially when they're lurking with reyna or jett or some shit like morons, they're just doing it to get frags to feed their egoes

lurking reyna is fine but lurking jett is a problem. most of the time people know what they are doing and know how to lurk but it's normally miscommunication or lack of communcation that makes the lurk have no impact or your team getting no value off the lurk

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Zerphyr1 [#10]

lurking reyna is fine but lurking jett is a problem. most of the time people know what they are doing and know how to lurk but it's normally miscommunication or lack of communcation that makes the lurk have no impact or your team getting no value off the lurk

its just genuinely painful to watch the same guy doing his lurk after dying in exec alone in 1 v 3 or something completely across the map with 0 kills, 0 impact, 0 comms trying to blame it on the team for losing the round

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AutismCanBeCured [#11]

its just genuinely painful to watch the same guy doing his lurk after dying in exec alone in 1 v 3 or something completely across the map with 0 kills, 0 impact, 0 comms trying to blame it on the team for losing the round

I mean if a guy is lurking and ur executing without him it sounds like that would be your teams problem but if you communicated with him that your executing soon and that they need to start to get some value of the lurk then he would probably either come with you for the execute or speed up the lurk and so he's able to get some flank kills

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laifu [#5]

game is most difficult in low ascendant/high diamond

nah thats literally one of the easiest elos

just aim diff nobody plays with brain there anyways

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Zerphyr1 [#12]

I mean if a guy is lurking and ur executing without him it sounds like that would be your teams problem but if you communicated with him that your executing soon and that they need to start to get some value of the lurk then he would probably either come with you for the execute or speed up the lurk and so he's able to get some flank kills

Yeah sure... Its teams fault that theres 30 seconds left and the lurk hasn't even gotten past the first corner yet, like if you haven't even taken your first step after a full minute of gameplay maybe the lurk isn't useful, thats like the average immortal lurker

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AutismCanBeCured [#14]

Yeah sure... Its teams fault that theres 30 seconds left and the lurk hasn't even gotten past the first corner yet, like if you haven't even taken your first step after a full minute of gameplay maybe the lurk isn't useful, thats like the average immortal lurker

if that does happen then yes it's the lurkers fault but from experience this rarely happens. Maybe this is just EU ranked idk.

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Zerphyr1 [#15]

if that does happen then yes it's the lurkers fault but from experience this rarely happens. Maybe this is just EU ranked idk.

Something could've changed but from my experience 99% of the lurkers on my team have either no impact or even negative impact, and almost never use any comms. But I haven't even played in like 4 acts now, the game is just really stale and isn't fun/challenging

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AutismCanBeCured [#16]

Something could've changed but from my experience 99% of the lurkers on my team have either no impact or even negative impact, and almost never use any comms. But I haven't even played in like 4 acts now, the game is just really stale and isn't fun/challenging

btw just out of curiosity what do u think would make the game less stale and more fun/challenging

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Zerphyr1 [#17]

btw just out of curiosity what do u think would make the game less stale and more fun/challenging

I don't think anything can make it more challenging, its just naturally pretty easy game, and the way the game is just built it just doesn't feel fun, like a lot of things are just RNG based and getting ability spammed in game isn't a fun experience even though it is part of the game, but idk why it feels so stale, like I play cs and it doesn't feel stale even though it has less content and its just W key holding simulator, but right now the biggest reason I just can't play at all is the map pool, basically every single map I ever liked has been taken out of ranked and I just don't feel the need to grind to Radiant from immortal 2 if I'm not even having fun playing

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AutismCanBeCured [#18]

I don't think anything can make it more challenging, its just naturally pretty easy game, and the way the game is just built it just doesn't feel fun, like a lot of things are just RNG based and getting ability spammed in game isn't a fun experience even though it is part of the game, but idk why it feels so stale, like I play cs and it doesn't feel stale even though it has less content and its just W key holding simulator, but right now the biggest reason I just can't play at all is the map pool, basically every single map I ever liked has been taken out of ranked and I just don't feel the need to grind to Radiant from immortal 2 if I'm not even having fun playing

ye, my biggest problem with the games would be the maps. I think every single one is shit but I like the abilities and they are all pretty balanced right now

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Zerphyr1 [#19]

ye, my biggest problem with the games would be the maps. I think every single one is shit but I like the abilities and they are all pretty balanced right now

True, the abilities for the most part are pretty balanced, its just annoying in ranked if you're playing solo anchor, you get quad flashed, stunned, sova ulted all at once, but if you somehow have to retake the other site in after plant, the enemies still have all the same util for after plant that they had taking your site

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AutismCanBeCured [#20]

True, the abilities for the most part are pretty balanced, its just annoying in ranked if you're playing solo anchor, you get quad flashed, stunned, sova ulted all at once, but if you somehow have to retake the other site in after plant, the enemies still have all the same util for after plant that they had taking your site

the maps are just designed to be super retake heavy which is why I think the chamber meta was more fun.

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laifu
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nah thats literally one of the easiest elos

just aim diff nobody plays with brain there anyways

im talking in terms of what type of teammates you get, ranked around there is bloated asf im currently immo 2 and its 2x easier compared to grinding it out in low ascendant

#23
laeDLaer
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Yep when I was around my peak around 500 I realised how braindead people in low immo actually are

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laeDLaer [#23]

Yep when I was around my peak around 500 I realised how braindead people in low immo actually are

peak 500 dont mean shit depending on when it was

theres like 3x less immortal players right now

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laeDLaer
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Costofequity [#24]

peak 500 dont mean shit depending on when it was

theres like 3x less immortal players right now

it was last act but i havent played since

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