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#1
Uncleben

I’m sure this thread has been done before but is there a reason why round 1 is single elim? The weird groups format is because there are 11 teams but for what reason is playoffs rd1 single elim

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Leo Faria came on me in a dream

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cboomer
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nutab1e [#2]

Leo Faria came on me in a dream

i got next

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Denjisideals
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Because money 💰
Watch them shamelessly put NRG vs Sen for the views

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Uncleben
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Denjisideals [#4]

Because money 💰
Watch them shamelessly put NRG vs Sen for the views

Wouldn’t lower bracket create more games = more views = more money

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Uncleben [#5]

Wouldn’t lower bracket create more games = more views = more money

It would but that would also increase viewer experience and actually be good decision.
Riot making a good decision? Blasphemy!!!

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Denjisideals [#6]

It would but that would also increase viewer experience and actually be good decision.
Riot making a good decision? Blasphemy!!!

im convinced random people who hate on riot for no reason are just people who follow wtv the latest broke t2 player tweeted out hating on leo for

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Denjisideals
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cboomer [#7]

im convinced random people who hate on riot for no reason are just people who follow wtv the latest broke t2 player tweeted out hating on leo for

There are reasons to hate riot tho.
Kickoffs playoffs format was shit.
The whole stage 1 group stage is weirdly arranged.
They are a billion dollars company and mess up with audio and other shit every second day. What is there to not hate about them

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I think it is because if it was double elim it could play out like this:
If you win upper quarters/round 1 you go to upper semis. If you lose upper semis than you go down to the lower bracket where other teams who already lost in round 1 would have had a whole day to prac. That would mean you would have less time to prac because you had to play in the upper semis. This means you are more likely to lose than before which defeats the purpose of winning the upper quarters.

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Uncleben
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Lilxcr [#9]

I think it is because if it was double elim it could play out like this:
If you win upper quarters/round 1 you go to upper semis. If you lose upper semis than you go down to the lower bracket where other teams who already lost in round 1 would have had a whole day to prac. That would mean you would have less time to prac because you had to play in the upper semis. This means you are more likely to lose than before which defeats the purpose of winning the upper quarters.

Definitely a problem, but it still a better scenario than having a team having one bad day and getting eliminated

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cboomer
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Denjisideals [#8]

There are reasons to hate riot tho.
Kickoffs playoffs format was shit.
The whole stage 1 group stage is weirdly arranged.
They are a billion dollars company and mess up with audio and other shit every second day. What is there to not hate about them

Riot is a billion dollar company but they don’t have billions to spend on esports lol

Nobody can predict how good a certain group is, most likely was random. It would be unfair to balance groups based on what Riot thinks is good

Kick off playoffs format was not shit, if you can’t comprehend kick offs you’re just a sore loser. It was a two stage event, with playins

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another level of shamelessness from riot games, cant even afford a 6 team double elim. I mean 2021 was sooo much better than this shit, 10 team masters minimum with 16 team masters and 16 team champs. Now we have 8 teams masters with fucking sinlge elim qualification. How have they become this stingy since franchising.

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Uncleben
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cboomer [#11]

Riot is a billion dollar company but they don’t have billions to spend on esports lol

Nobody can predict how good a certain group is, most likely was random. It would be unfair to balance groups based on what Riot thinks is good

Kick off playoffs format was not shit, if you can’t comprehend kick offs you’re just a sore loser. It was a two stage event, with playins

If u didn’t go through playins though u got punished (I.e. EG and nrg)

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Psion
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the single elim game is a qualifier between the #2 and #3 in the same group, don't think of it as part of the playoffs

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cboomer
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Uncleben [#13]

If u didn’t go through playins though u got punished (I.e. EG and nrg)

The save strat merchants shoulda thought ab that lol

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Uncleben
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cboomer [#15]

The save strat merchants shoulda thought ab that lol

If sen had an off day like they did vs leviathan and lost one match they would have been eliminated too, it’s a bad format regardless of team

There’s no reason why a 4 team playoffs can’t have double elim with the two losers (nrg and EG) playing each other and then playing loud for a lower final (Madrid qualification)

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Uncleben [#16]

If sen had an off day like they did vs leviathan and lost one match they would have been eliminated too, it’s a bad format regardless of team

There’s no reason why a 4 team playoffs can’t have double elim with the two losers (nrg and EG) playing each other and then playing loud for a lower final (Madrid qualification)

there was double elim and playins you just don't wanna accept it

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Uncleben
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cboomer [#17]

there was double elim and playins you just don't wanna accept it

Loud and sen, especially sen would have still gone through a double elim format, as they were clearly better than nrg or EG at kickoff
Doesn’t change the fact the format is poor

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laeDLaer
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single elim is good and should be in playoffs for all tournaments. show up or fuck off, you shouldnt get a second chance when you lose.

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laeDLaer [#19]

single elim is good and should be in playoffs for all tournaments. show up or fuck off, you shouldnt get a second chance when you lose.

bbbbut what if my team plays bad and they lose :((((((((

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Uncleben [#18]

Loud and sen, especially sen would have still gone through a double elim format, as they were clearly better than nrg or EG at kickoff
Doesn’t change the fact the format is poor

SEN had 6 games to qualify to madrid, NRG coulda went through play-ins if they wanted more practice or something

kick off format was fine imo, losers lose and winners win but thats how life goes

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Uncleben
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cboomer [#21]

SEN had 6 games to qualify to madrid, NRG coulda went through play-ins if they wanted more practice or something

kick off format was fine imo, losers lose and winners win but thats how life goes

So why shouldn’t every match be single elim then, in groups and playoffs
International matches should also have all matches be single elim since winners win and losers lose

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Uncleben [#22]

So why shouldn’t every match be single elim then, in groups and playoffs
International matches should also have all matches be single elim since winners win and losers lose

it wasn't single elim bro only the last match was
stop looking at kickoff like a 4 team tournament and more like a 10 team tournament where some teams played 7 games lol

7 matches is how many it took for LOUD to win champs btw, you just wanna cry cuz ur an NRG fan.

Its not single elim, NRG coulda lost to either c9 or furia, played play-ins and probably have lost to SEN still but they'd have looked better

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BoF7ooM [#12]

another level of shamelessness from riot games, cant even afford a 6 team double elim. I mean 2021 was sooo much better than this shit, 10 team masters minimum with 16 team masters and 16 team champs. Now we have 8 teams masters with fucking sinlge elim qualification. How have they become this stingy since franchising.

And they are rushing with everything like dude Champs the last event of the season in August wtf. 2021 was so perfect with champs in Late November.

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Uncleben
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cboomer [#23]

it wasn't single elim bro only the last match was
stop looking at kickoff like a 4 team tournament and more like a 10 team tournament where some teams played 7 games lol

7 matches is how many it took for LOUD to win champs btw, you just wanna cry cuz ur an NRG fan.

Its not single elim, NRG coulda lost to either c9 or furia, played play-ins and probably have lost to SEN still but they'd have looked better

Why should the last match be single elim? As far as I remember qualification matches to masters have never been single elim ever.

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Uncleben [#5]

Wouldn’t lower bracket create more games = more views = more money

shh bro, vlr people dont think

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GAGAZ
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riot game schudule > competitive
never play 2 match in the same time questionable?
btw nothing change since 2020

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