first deaths != bad

First death is a good stat line but it requires more context to be useful.

Of course demon1 will have very high first involvements (first kill + first deaths) because he is the duelist player.
His role of nrg has been to go in first and make space.

Now the real question is how the rest of the team is capitalising on the space.
Is his first deaths getting traded? So maybe his first deaths arent as bad.
Or maybe his entry pathing is unsuccessful, perhaps he requires some more util/info to aid him.

In the context of the nrg game, a lot of Demon1's first deaths were pretty negative with Leviatan having very strong defensive reads/setups that negated his ability to make space.
NRG did plant the spike 5x on sunset, but the man advantages being created by Leviatan create extreme advantages especially with sunset being so retake heavy.

diamond0 has a lot of first deaths because washed

Victor needs to play raze

and demon1 needs to play sentinel/smokes, double duelist is fugazi

goblins on this site that aren't even LEV fans wont listen to reason rn but i agree with u, entire team played beyond dogshit and it felt like their only strat on attack was to send demon1 as a roomba to die for all of sunset. Chet even said in the post Sunset interview that they weren't clearing Cypher's util so their duelist isn't instantly dead to recon + smoke spam.

Only if u said this when people were clowing on zekken.Ig its only first deaths context needed when its ur fav team?

Ausam [#5]

Only if u said this when people were clowing on zekken.Ig its only first deaths context needed when its ur fav team?

I am a fnatic fan.

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I am a fnatic fan.

then idk why ur making excuses for nrg?Im just saying if ur gonna bring context then do it for every1

Ausam [#7]

then idk why ur making excuses for nrg?Im just saying if ur gonna bring context then do it for every1

I've been pretty vocal about how important looking at deeper stats like traded-first deaths and true-first kills can be when looking at the value of duelists players and their entries.

Idk i just made this thread because I saw a lot of people/threads/tweets equating first deaths == bad player.

Zekken normally boasts a positive first kill win rate , so i havent seen his stat lines been brought up as much as this demon1 game.

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I've been pretty vocal about how important looking at deeper stats like traded-first deaths and true-first kills can be when looking at the value of duelists players and their entries.

Idk i just made this thread because I saw a lot of people/threads/tweets equating first deaths == bad player.

Zekken normally boasts a positive first kill win rate , so i havent seen his stat lines been brought up as much as this demon1 game.

gotch.I believe the same thing.But last week i felt so bad for zekken cause people were clowing on him for this exact reason as well.