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Actual List of Goats that is non-biased

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sentinelmain377

GOATS:

  1. Aspas
  2. Chronicle
  3. Alfajer
  4. Leo
  5. Saadhak
  6. nAts
  7. TenZ

Close to GOAT status:

  1. Less
  2. Jinggg
  3. F0RSAKEN
  4. cNed
  5. Zekken
  6. Ange1
  7. Johnqt
  8. FNS
  9. Shao
  10. Suygetsu
  11. Yay
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y0y

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Cromawarrior48
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0

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n1cf
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W

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there cant be this many goats no?

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StyrofoamOne
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pretty w list ngl (if we count historical events)

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-Ckek
-J0ngg
-Shao
-F0rsaken
-Ange0

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MeloSquids
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change zekken choker to asuna

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worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

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cioccolat [#9]

worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

I disagree

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MeloSquids [#8]

change zekken choker to asuna

asuna trash

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cioccolat [#9]

worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

aren't you the same guy that said losing aspas wouldn't hurt loud too much? respectfully, keep quiet 🗿

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cioccolat [#9]

worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

Agreed, Ange0 won 1 masters and he is the goat now?
"Actual List of Goats that is non-biased" my ass

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ange1 can't be mentioned in the same breath as any of these players

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MeloSquids
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TheAceGamer30 [#11]

asuna trash

still better than sentiwashed losing to aspas 1v5 🤣

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MeloSquids [#15]

still better than sentiwashed losing to aspas 1v5 🤣

100t would lose to t0x 1v5

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uwukitten [#12]

aren't you the same guy that said losing aspas wouldn't hurt loud too much? respectfully, keep quiet 🗿

it didnt, they are still contenders.

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TheAceGamer30
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MeloSquids [#15]

still better than sentiwashed losing to aspas 1v5 🤣

ur probably baiting or just ridiculously stupid

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cioccolat [#17]

it didnt, they are still contenders.

🤭

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Kirya
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-y0y
Embarrassing player

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maplesy [#13]

Agreed, Ange0 won 1 masters and he is the goat now?
"Actual List of Goats that is non-biased" my ass

"but they were good in 2021" ok, and? players that were good for longer periods deserve higher ratings than a one-year fad (yay)

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sentinelmain377
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cioccolat [#9]

worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

u are stupid
it is not just about the masters and event wins

it is about who contributed to Valorant as well (Ange1, Cned, nAts, FNS, Yay)

nats didnt define the cypher playstyle
he defined the lurk playstyle as well as viper lurk

ange1 taught people how to play the game when it came out in 2020, so many IGLs have learned from him

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cioccolat [#9]

worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

thank you ciocolat

you get it !!

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cioccolat [#9]

worst list ever, none of the people above saadhak deserve to be there.

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating
Ange1 - won 1 masters and managed to fall off the face of the earth. deserves his trophy but not the rating
Nats - defined a cypher playstyle, wow, saadhak invented metas, Aspas made a movement style, Forsaken has several styles of play in several different agents.
FNS - if he didnt get snaked by chet he could prove his worth on the list
Yay - literally just a chamber abuser carried by Fns, managed to lose the championship to a team that didnt know how to use chamber
Shao - why tf is he here, boaster has more feats than him

CNED - literally just a good op player, didnt do anything deserving of a top 1 rating

bro literally said its in no particular order

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sentinelmain377
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FrenchToast [#23]

thank you ciocolat

you get it !!

no he doesnt
both of you are just new to vct and dont know the early contributors, especially you

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sentinelmain377 [#25]

no he doesnt
both of you are just new to vct and dont know the early contributors, especially you

i’ve been a watcher of pro val since 2020. im not new lol
having 16 players on a goat list is insane

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cioccolat [#17]

it didnt, they are still contenders.

tell me honestly, do you genuinely believe the current loud can win a trophy?

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sentinelmain377
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FrenchToast [#26]

i’ve been a watcher of pro val since 2020. im not new lol
having 16 players on a goat list is insane

how tf did u not have atleast nAts on ur list then bro????
even tho he isnt crazy now, he defined the whole lurk playstyle bro

dont u remember games like Gambit vs G2 or Gambit vs Envy

Nats > Tenz

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ionlyHave1Zuni [#19]

🤭

they literally just need to swap tuyz qck and saadhaks roles on some maps and they will be golden

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TheAceGamer30 [#18]

ur probably baiting or just ridiculously stupid

im being fr, sentiwashed wins 1 mickey mouse tournament and they think they can compete against 100T and Leviathan. even MIBR would rawdog sentibots 🤣😂😂😂

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MeloSquids [#30]

im being fr, sentiwashed wins 1 mickey mouse tournament and they think they can compete against 100T and Leviathan. even MIBR would rawdog sentibots 🤣😂😂😂

alright ur baiting 0/8

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sentinelmain377 [#28]

how tf did u not have atleast nAts on ur list then bro????
even tho he isnt crazy now, he defined the whole lurk playstyle bro

dont u remember games like Gambit vs G2 or Gambit vs Envy

Nats > Tenz

mf i have been watching VCT since 2020
i was present during the sick fall off, zombs beef, eu flash, russian bans etc.

"nats invented lurking" on a time nobody knew how to properly play the game, the only pros from that time that are still relevant, are relevant due to consistency, like saadhak, tenz and mwzera (not as good as the first 2 but still alive)

Less has more impact on the lurking playstyle than Nats, why? cuz he gets countered and still has impact, nats didnt.
we cant call 2021 players goats because nobody knew how to fucking play the game. it was just 1v1s and dry peeking.
fucking Kickoff Furia could win 2021 champions

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TheAceGamer30 [#31]

alright ur baiting 0/8

call it bait if u want lol, im just speaking facts and you're in denial of facts (nice coping mechanism of urs tho ngl)

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uwukitten [#14]

ange1 can't be mentioned in the same breath as any of these players

trust week 3 when clove is on hes gonna drop ass-pas level numbers

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uwukitten [#27]

tell me honestly, do you genuinely believe the current loud can win a trophy?

Yes. specifically Champions or Vct americas split 2.

a superteam can always fall off, but Loud managed to stay on the top for 3 years now, thats cuz of saadhak.
just let them train

EG was ass on the start of 2023 and look at them
Kru was 0/10 and won LCQ
GENG was not believed in at all and got 2nd at Masters
PRX lost Jingg and still was top 3

just cuz a team is bad for a while doesnt mean it will always be that way

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cioccolat [#32]

mf i have been watching VCT since 2020
i was present during the sick fall off, zombs beef, eu flash, russian bans etc.

"nats invented lurking" on a time nobody knew how to properly play the game, the only pros from that time that are still relevant, are relevant due to consistency, like saadhak, tenz and mwzera (not as good as the first 2 but still alive)

Less has more impact on the lurking playstyle than Nats, why? cuz he gets countered and still has impact, nats didnt.
we cant call 2021 players goats because nobody knew how to fucking play the game. it was just 1v1s and dry peeking.
fucking Kickoff Furia could win 2021 champions

your argument for people like nAts and Yay to be not listed as goats makes no sense.
How did we get to the point at which people knew how to properly play the game?
Answer: After seeing ppl like nAts and Yay

relevancy shouldnt matter as much as contributions to valorant do (thas why Saadhak, FNS, and Ange1 are the goat IGLs for me)

Also you do know that the list I made has no order right?

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