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Valorant is growin!

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https://twitter.com/EsportsCharts/status/1772013675294949548

1.6 million peak viewers for the first event of the year!
(possibly going to be 1.7 mil by tomorrow after updated stats)

average viewership of 670k , which after considering this was the shortest event in a long time, still outperforms the rest, even champions!
Valorant is only growing, add chinese stats to this as well and we so up.

and the most important part of it is, valorant has consistently seen a rise of viewership since 2021, we always grow, no matter whether the most popular team plays or not, the growth may not always be significant, but its always there.

One day we will be in the same bracket as League of Legends!

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how much does LoL and csjoe make ?

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BrotherMan [#2]

how much does LoL and csjoe make ?

we'll overtake csjoe by this year in terms of peak viewers ever.

lol is like 6 mil, so a long way to go, but hopefully in a similar length timeline as lol, we can be there

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BrotherMan [#2]

how much does LoL and csjoe make ?

LoL is stupidly high.
Peaked at 6.4m at 2023 worlds.

CS peaked at 2.7m at stockholm 2021
cs has an issue that the last 7 major finals have been 2-0 sweep.

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BrotherMan [#2]

how much does LoL and csjoe make ?

lol way more and cs a bit more or equal i think

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symbols07 [#3]

we'll overtake csjoe by this year in terms of peak viewers ever.

lol is like 6 mil, so a long way to go, but hopefully in a similar length timeline as lol, we can be there

does that 6mil lol viewership already count china? if valorant gets bigger in china i think it can get there.

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symbols07 [#3]

we'll overtake csjoe by this year in terms of peak viewers ever.

lol is like 6 mil, so a long way to go, but hopefully in a similar length timeline as lol, we can be there

I don't see it.
The biggest valorant fanbases have traditionally been BR/NA (JP is big but they are not competitive enough to make a grand finals).
The timezone for shanghai and champions would not be great for either regions.

Madrid is super high due to sentinels overwhelming popularity.

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LoL is way higher because of the chinese viewership that isn't included.

Worlds 2023 Viewership for China alone was around 30-50 because it was Weibo in the final.

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stopper [#6]

does that 6mil lol viewership already count china? if valorant gets bigger in china i think it can get there.

none of it counts china. and if we count chinese viewership for lol, we need to compare it to superbowl and not other esports :)

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I don't see it.
The biggest valorant fanbases have traditionally been BR/NA (JP is big but they are not competitive enough to make a grand finals).
The timezone for shanghai and champions would not be great for either regions.

Madrid is super high due to sentinels overwhelming popularity.

just see the trend. masters shanghai will underperform in terms of stats no matter what time zone.

it may be true that madrid was super high because of sentinels, we also need to look at the fact that it was geng they were playing against, the least clouted team entering this event (bar fpx)

optimistically speaking loud sentinels fnatic prx, and if kc actually get good(international finals level good), they'll bring in more fans then we can imagine

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eivu [#8]

LoL is way higher because of the chinese viewership that isn't included.

Worlds 2023 Viewership for China alone was around 30-50 because it was Weibo in the final.

the year when edg won worlds was 60 mil or something, we cant compare chinese viewership

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symbols07 [#10]

just see the trend. masters shanghai will underperform in terms of stats no matter what time zone.

it may be true that madrid was super high because of sentinels, we also need to look at the fact that it was geng they were playing against, the least clouted team entering this event (bar fpx)

optimistically speaking loud sentinels fnatic prx, and if kc actually get good(international finals level good), they'll bring in more fans then we can imagine

"it may be true" it is 100% an undeniable fact,do u think val just organically jumped from champs averaging 491k and peaking at 1.29m to madrid peaking at 1.65m and averaging 670k cause the game is growing lol,its pretty obvious what the difference maker is when u look at the stats,sen in their first masters since 2021 with a big chance to win it all
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2024-masters-madrid-valorant

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symbols07 [#11]

the year when edg won worlds was 60 mil or something, we cant compare chinese viewership

Yeah that had like 75 million according to riot, it did help that it was a close series between DK and them

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eivu [#13]

Yeah that had like 75 million according to riot, it did help that it was a close series between DK and them

and we wonder why china gets their own set of teams for international lol

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stopper [#6]

does that 6mil lol viewership already count china? if valorant gets bigger in china i think it can get there.

They get 100 millies ez over there in china

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stopper [#6]

does that 6mil lol viewership already count china? if valorant gets bigger in china i think it can get there.

Peak viewership with china included is literally several dozen million in LoL. Lets not try to compare to LoL viewership. We're not hitting those numbers.

edit: https://www.cynopsis.com/11-10-22-worlds-2022-shatters-viewership-record/ 73.8 million peak for the 2021 LoL world championship final including Chinese viewers.

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yea lets not get too crazy. doubt we ever reach the lvl of league with that being riots golden child. maybe we can get like half of league after faker retires

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asdfgh [#12]

"it may be true" it is 100% an undeniable fact,do u think val just organically jumped from champs averaging 491k and peaking at 1.29m to madrid peaking at 1.65m and averaging 670k cause the game is growing lol,its pretty obvious what the difference maker is when u look at the stats,sen in their first masters since 2021 with a big chance to win it all
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2024-masters-madrid-valorant

No, if you look at the kickoff viewership, you can clearly see a large increase in every single regions viewership.

EMEA Pacific Americas all had significant growth, and not everyone had sen.

Also considering none of the events last year were in Europe, thus no tournament had good timezones when they were played.

Add all these factors and my argument sounds more strong

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fake charts masters madrid was lowest viewership it was faked numbers. valorant champions 2023 clears the viewership. vct 2023 finals doubles madrid.

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Selex [#16]

Peak viewership with china included is literally several dozen million in LoL. Lets not try to compare to LoL viewership. We're not hitting those numbers.

edit: https://www.cynopsis.com/11-10-22-worlds-2022-shatters-viewership-record/ 73.8 million peak for the 2021 LoL world championship final including Chinese viewers.

damn thats more than 0.9 percent basically one percent which means every 1 out of 100 person of the whole world watching that that is a shit ton

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China is not included. With their viewership, Valo will never reach LoL's amount of views. May not even overtake CS tbh

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xXxSuperFanxXx [#19]

fake charts masters madrid was lowest viewership it was faked numbers. valorant champions 2023 clears the viewership. vct 2023 finals doubles madrid.

Source: "trust me bro"

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symbols07 [#18]

No, if you look at the kickoff viewership, you can clearly see a large increase in every single regions viewership.

EMEA Pacific Americas all had significant growth, and not everyone had sen.

Also considering none of the events last year were in Europe, thus no tournament had good timezones when they were played.

Add all these factors and my argument sounds more strong

sure but the fact its this high is like 80% sentinels,also u cant compare kick off viewership to the whole league that lasted like months especially when riot tried to milk the wiewership with the free watch party rights,we had all the big cc's watch partying all regions for the first time,lets see how much the regular season games get now compared to 2023 then u can see the real growth,val had its lwest wiewership since 2020 just befre this seasn including all off seasons before but u think now suddenly it just had a massive growth spurt out of nowhere,that is delusional if anything when u can literally see sen carried the wiewership in all games,even sen vs kc averaged higher than prx vs loud and gen g vs prx in playoffs

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4ch1p4p4 [#22]

Source: "trust me bro"

good man! thank you for trusting me

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asdfgh [#23]

sure but the fact its this high is like 80% sentinels,also u cant compare kick off viewership to the whole league that lasted like months especially when riot tried to milk the wiewership with the free watch party rights,we had all the big cc's watch partying all regions for the first time,lets see how much the regular season games get now compared to 2023 then u can see the real growth,val had its lwest wiewership since 2020 just befre this seasn including all off seasons before but u think now suddenly it just had a massive growth spurt out of nowhere,that is delusional if anything when u can literally see sen carried the wiewership in all games,even sen vs kc averaged higher than prx vs loud and gen g vs prx in playoffs

sen vs kc

you literally talked about a game between the most popular emea team vs most popular americas team. thats not a good example for your argument.

also i dont want to really argue that much. to me what i said is an obvious conclusion. i will not force you to accpet it. you can have your opinion.

all good

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symbols07 [#25]

sen vs kc

you literally talked about a game between the most popular emea team vs most popular americas team. thats not a good example for your argument.

also i dont want to really argue that much. to me what i said is an obvious conclusion. i will not force you to accpet it. you can have your opinion.

all good

u literally have 0 arguments,wdym obvious conclusion when u coudnt answer to singe thing i said there and needed to go with the "u can have ur own opinion i just know im right" as soon as i bring up the facts,nice cope

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