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top 3 Best debut of every year

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2021: First professional year so doesn't count
2022:

  1. Aspas
  2. Less
    (options for 3rd: Shyy, Cryocells, trent, Alfajer, Zmjjkk, trexx)

2023:

  1. Demon1
  2. something
  3. (AtaKaptan, Carpe, invy, runi, jakee)

2024 (rn):

  1. Karon
  2. N4RRATE
  3. DECIDE BRO, FIRST "JOHNQT" then "WHY JOHNQT" stop bro

any change you want let me know
and help me with N°2/3 in 2022, N°3 in 2023

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johnqt over benjy and n4rrate

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How is benjyfishy on here if there are literally 2 better Rookies on his team

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Runi and jake?

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Hyopic
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JohnQT over benjy, benjy also debuted in 2023

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babi [#2]

johnqt over benjy and n4rrate

benjy yes n4rrate no, top rated player at madrid (he should be #1)

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Psion [#6]

benjy yes n4rrate no, top rated player at madrid (he should be #1)

Karon and JohnQT are in the grand finals, at least until shanghai we should consider them > N4RRATE

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makes sense

aspas first lan 2nd - won champs
demon1 first lan 2nd - won champs
karon first lan (guaranteed 2nd) - champs contending team

come back when geng win champs!

#9
lez
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Jinggg 2022?

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Mortadelo
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MiniBoo’s debut was definitely better than Benjy, plus technically Benjy debuted in 2023

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LocoMonteiro [#3]

How is benjyfishy on here if there are literally 2 better Rookies on his team

They saw split and brain turn off

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Mortadelo [#10]

MiniBoo’s debut was definitely better than Benjy, plus technically Benjy debuted in 2023

MiniBoo played the 2022 ascension with Case so i consider he already debuted
also the reason why FUT players aren't in 2023

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lez [#9]

Jinggg 2022?

he was in 2021 LCQ

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Hyopic [#7]

Karon and JohnQT are in the grand finals, at least until shanghai we should consider them > N4RRATE

n4rrate #1 Masters, #2 EMEA. Hes the best player so far. Not to mention he does hella calling

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lez [#9]

Jinggg 2022?

Jingg debuted for PRX in 2021 and even then he wasnt crazy insane either. there were a lot more players that year that were better. Jinggg got much better around the end of 22 and mid 23

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LocoMonteiro [#3]

How is benjyfishy on here if there are literally 2 better Rookies on his team

bro i just hate benjy and i only remember him
i didn't remember johnqt

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carpe?

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lilcheese [#17]

carpe?

he got into every international tournament

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Typer [#4]

Runi and jake?

Americas Regular League was incredible for C9
both played very well

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Hyopic [#7]

Karon and JohnQT are in the grand finals, at least until shanghai we should consider them > N4RRATE

judging someone based on only how high they place is crazy, I guess Kiles is better than F0rsakeN and Zekken

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Hyopic [#7]

Karon and JohnQT are in the grand finals, at least until shanghai we should consider them > N4RRATE

N4RRATE is better than johnqt bro

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Hyopic [#5]

JohnQT over benjy, benjy also debuted in 2023

yeah my bad i forgot johnqt
(benjy played 1 match bro isn't too much)

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Hashib
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widepeepofrosty [#8]

makes sense

aspas first lan 2nd - won champs
demon1 first lan 2nd - won champs
karon first lan (guaranteed 2nd) - champs contending team

come back when geng win champs!

peak script?

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Mortadelo
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MiniBoo played the 2022 ascension with Case so i consider he already debuted
also the reason why FUT players aren't in 2023

Ascension is not tier 1

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Mortadelo [#24]

Ascension is not tier 1

en 2022 el ascension y la semiliga que habia arriba no eran tan distantes como ahora
diferencias con las franquicias

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B1itz [#20]

judging someone based on only how high they place is crazy, I guess Kiles is better than F0rsakeN and Zekken

In 2021, yeah I would. That's like saying Cloud is better than Leo just because he can perform on his team; Leo has shown better placements and has performed on his team several times.

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OkOkay [#14]

n4rrate #1 Masters, #2 EMEA. Hes the best player so far. Not to mention he does hella calling

I think N4RRATE has the skill to be the best player in the world, really though in this tournament, Karon and JohnQT outshine him imo. I definitely think N4RRATE will be at least above JohnQT by the end of the year, if not Karon as well (although if GEN.G win the event, I find it hard to believe that Karon will stagnate)

#28
thisisjustforpickems
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top 3 this year

  1. Karon
  2. Zekken
  3. N4RRATE
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widepeepofrosty [#8]

makes sense

aspas first lan 2nd - won champs
demon1 first lan 2nd - won champs
karon first lan (guaranteed 2nd) - champs contending team

come back when geng win champs!

bro got the script

#30
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MiniBoo played the 2022 ascension with Case so i consider he already debuted
also the reason why FUT players aren't in 2023

then why include johnqt?

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johnqt doesn't belong in a debutant list lol.... what logic did you use to include him, if you consider trent a top3 debutant in 2022, and trent lost to john in 2022 NA Challengers (tier 1 at the time) ?

this makes no sense lol

#32
smthlikeyou11
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2022 Less and Pancada

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Hyopic [#26]

In 2021, yeah I would. That's like saying Cloud is better than Leo just because he can perform on his team; Leo has shown better placements and has performed on his team several times.

LMAO thats actually fucking crazy. You think Kiles was better in 2021 than Yay????

Leo also has consistently played better Cloud, dont get me wrong Clouds incredible but Leo makes literally no mistakes

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thisisjustforpickems [#28]

top 3 this year

  1. Karon
  2. Zekken
  3. N4RRATE

zekken lit been playing a lot in T1

#35
koromast
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you didnt put s0m 2023? also daveeys

#36
Asuna_Yuuki
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Amine 100% clears N4rrate

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spaldingmatters
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How is JohnQT a debutant, he was playing high level tier 1 back in 2022.

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Mortadelo
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en 2022 el ascension y la semiliga que habia arriba no eran tan distantes como ahora
diferencias con las franquicias

Estás pensando en el Ascension de antes de franquicias, que se puede debatir. Pero el Ascension en el que compitió MiniBoo fue el último, no había tier 1 ya estábamos en franquicias

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B1itz [#33]

LMAO thats actually fucking crazy. You think Kiles was better in 2021 than Yay????

Leo also has consistently played better Cloud, dont get me wrong Clouds incredible but Leo makes literally no mistakes

Literally never said that, you asked if he was better than f0rsaken and zekken back then and he probably was.

That's what im saying about N4RRATE, at least with Karon and JohnQT, they're kind of guaranteed to show up the next few events with how their whole team is performing and if either of them wins the tournament then they're pretty much guaranteed champs. If N4RRATE doesn't show up to Shanghai because FNATIC or NAVI or both play to their top performance then he can't ever be the "rookie of the year" compared to JohnQT and Karon. I think it's too soon to determine for N4RRATE but I do think he is capable of doing it. This is the reason players like Alfajer in 2022 or Jawgemo in 2022 couldn't be considered rookies of their year; neither fully reached their potential until 2023 while other players did in 2022, that's fine, they're still incredible players that always perform for their teams but it's not deserving of that title IMO.

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Mortadelo [#38]

Estás pensando en el Ascension de antes de franquicias, que se puede debatir. Pero el Ascension en el que compitió MiniBoo fue el último, no había tier 1 ya estábamos en franquicias

ya pero para ese momento eran de lo mejor que habia en europa, o me diras que BIG y FOKUS eran mejoores que FUT y VIT
ahora con franquicias es mas facil esto pero antes era imposible

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ya pero para ese momento eran de lo mejor que habia en europa, o me diras que BIG y FOKUS eran mejoores que FUT y VIT
ahora con franquicias es mas facil esto pero antes era imposible

Que un equipo de tier 2 sea mejor que uno de tier 1 no quiere decir que sea tier 1. Comparalo con el futbol, los equipos que suben suelen ser mejores que los que bajan pero no quiere decir que fuesen de la primera division hasta que no suben.

De todas maneras insisto, MiniBoo no participó en ese ascension, solo en el ultimo

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Ernno
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Less and Alfajer for 2022

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deadpark
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widepeepofrosty [#8]

makes sense

aspas first lan 2nd - won champs
demon1 first lan 2nd - won champs
karon first lan (guaranteed 2nd) - champs contending team

come back when geng win champs!

take my energy Jão Gee

#44
widepeepofrosty
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deadpark [#43]

take my energy Jão Gee

if geng wants to win the biggest trophy, they unfortunately must lose this tournament

if they win this one then they are not winning champs

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deadpark
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widepeepofrosty [#44]

if geng wants to win the biggest trophy, they unfortunately must lose this tournament

if they win this one then they are not winning champs

shhhhh, dont spell the curse

#46
widepeepofrosty
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deadpark [#45]

shhhhh, dont spell the curse

oops 😳

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Ernno [#42]

Less and Alfajer for 2022

Alfajer over Cryo and trexx? i don't know bro

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Mortadelo [#41]

Que un equipo de tier 2 sea mejor que uno de tier 1 no quiere decir que sea tier 1. Comparalo con el futbol, los equipos que suben suelen ser mejores que los que bajan pero no quiere decir que fuesen de la primera division hasta que no suben.

De todas maneras insisto, MiniBoo no participó en ese ascension, solo en el ultimo

ya bro pero en ese momento no habia la diferenciacion con franquicias
el ascension tenia un valor gigante realmente y MiniBoo gano, lo mismo por lo que no habia puesto a Johnqt porque tambien era un jugador que llevaba bastante en un T2 estable
son jugadores que ya tienen experiencia no como Aspas o Less que jugaban en equipos medio bajos de brazil
o N4RRATE que hasta descendio

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Ernno
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Alfajer over Cryo and trexx? i don't know bro

for sure over trexx

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Mortadelo
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PINTO0 [#48]

ya bro pero en ese momento no habia la diferenciacion con franquicias
el ascension tenia un valor gigante realmente y MiniBoo gano, lo mismo por lo que no habia puesto a Johnqt porque tambien era un jugador que llevaba bastante en un T2 estable
son jugadores que ya tienen experiencia no como Aspas o Less que jugaban en equipos medio bajos de brazil
o N4RRATE que hasta descendio

De nuevo, te estás confundiendo con MiniBoo, el solo ha jugado 1 ascension y fue este último con Case y Lucas Rojo

Pero bueno entiendo lo que dices, simplemente no lo comparto

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