Monyet brainwashing?

Since so many people want to justify him not getting kicked as if they're brainwashed into believing that he's good enough to hang, let me break down his performance so far.

PRX vs GENG: Monyet went -1
PRX vs T1: Monyet went -19
PRX vs GENG: Monyet went -18 (Kick Off final) (19 FKs and 34 FDs for the tournament)
PRX vs EDG: Monyet went -13
PRX vs TH: Monyet went -6
PRX vs KC: Monyet went -3
PRX vs GENG: Monyet went -5
PRX vs LOUD: Monyet went -5
PRX vs SEN: Monyet went -8 (Masters Madrid knockouts, -13 in Map 1) (45 FKs and 64 FDs for the tournament)

A collective -78 deficit for him, he's never been positive once since the start of 2024, he is an anchor. Stop the cope and fake narratives. PRX don't need another Jinggg, they need someone who doesn't go negative in LITERALLY every series and can still match PRX's playstyle.

The fact that PRX lost their best and most impactful player for this and still made it to top 3 in an international is just insane.

but but but.... 🤣🤣🤣

speaking facts no sugarcoating it!

They desperately want Monyet to be a good player so it doesn't look like their fav team got shit on by a weakened PRX

Prx need to make a decision. Either monyet or mindfreak go.
Get xan Or any other t2 sg duelist.
I also feel that prx gamestyle is destroying monyet game.

Allat

get y0y perfect W gaming anchor

You're the real PRX fan. Not blinded by the bandwagons

he is a fraud 0 excuses

Orangepanda [#8]

You're the real PRX fan. Not blinded by the bandwagons

I want what's best for the team and it's genuinely amazing that PRX made top 3 like this. I still think that they're in their prime.

Holy shit

Bro you're speaking facts.. these ppl are delusional they saw him pop off one map and suddenly it negates his negative impact and terrible performance on other maps.

skibidiyesyes [#10]

I want what's best for the team and it's genuinely amazing that PRX made top 3 like this. I still think that they're in their prime.

Thank u for speaking facts some fans are delusional

skibidiyesyes [#10]

I want what's best for the team and it's genuinely amazing that PRX made top 3 like this. I still think that they're in their prime.

Most bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨 can't accept (delusional ) that monyet is mid

NotNefarious [#2]

but but but.... 🤣🤣🤣

It's genuinely insane, some people call themselves PRX fans yet want their team that are still VERY CLEARLY in their prime to be held back or changed drastically for Monyet. I genuinely don't get it.

Orangepanda [#14]

Most bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨 can't accept (delusional ) that monyet is mid

Midyet is real idk why they're so blinded

skibidiyesyes [#15]

It's genuinely insane, some people call themselves PRX fans yet want their team that are still VERY CLEARLY in their prime to be held back or changed drastically for Monyet. I genuinely don't get it.

They're either fans of team that prx knock out who can't accept prx is weaker or monyet fans who can't stand the truth lul

ok wait. im rethinking my whole thread about how prx with jinggg wouldn't have made a difference. i knew monyet wasn't exactly doing the best but this is horrendous lmao

Ullyr [#17]

They're either fans of team that prx knock out who can't accept prx is weaker or monyet fans who can't stand the truth lul

There are people out there that believe -Monyet is an indefinite con for the team, like what the actual fuck?

skibidiyesyes [#15]

It's genuinely insane, some people call themselves PRX fans yet want their team that are still VERY CLEARLY in their prime to be held back or changed drastically for Monyet. I genuinely don't get it.

Most of them are monyet bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨

Most people (not me tho, cus i dont beleive he is a good investment) want to give him a chance at least for the next master, i dont think they have the same opinion if monyet perform like this again so lets just wait & see. Hes still young too

skibidiyesyes [#15]

It's genuinely insane, some people call themselves PRX fans yet want their team that are still VERY CLEARLY in their prime to be held back or changed drastically for Monyet. I genuinely don't get it.

youre just making stuff up at this point
i believe 99% prx fans angry at monyet and wants him to leave but they staying positive (trust me even indos also flaming him hard)

the problem is not the brainwashing nonsense bs. theres no such stuff.

its just the possibility for PRX to kick monyet is almost impossible i'd say, unless he gets traded.

skibidiyesyes [#10]

I want what's best for the team and it's genuinely amazing that PRX made top 3 like this. I still think that they're in their prime.

Agree making top 3 in this event is amazing. I think PRX will give him a little time to adapt and onboard.

The fact people still want PRX to continue playing him, especially on Raze is blasphemous, I'd be down to see him on Omen again, but definitely not Raze, he's atrocious and these stats just perfectly show it.

Kaito_M8 [#21]

Most people (not me tho, cus i dont beleive he is a good investment) want to give him a chance at least for the next master, i dont think they have the same opinion if monyet perform like this again so lets just wait & see. Hes still young too

I think that's the main reason why prx chose him. He is young so in case things don't work put they can still sell him and can get good bag

Orangepanda [#20]

Most of them are monyet bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨

Why lead opinion to my country ? I dont think only indonesian defend him, no ?

Orangepanda [#20]

Most of them are monyet bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨

this guy just cant stop spamming ragebait

Orangepanda [#14]

Most bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨 can't accept (delusional ) that monyet is mid

Hes mid i know & i made a couple post about that too. Why lead opinion to my country ? I dont think only indonesian defend him, no ? Dont you see it ?

Astar [#27]

this guy just cant stop spamming ragebait

This guy dont even use his real flag and he leaidng opinion towards us like this

can't believe i agree with skibidiyesyes

Slayerxnoob01 [#25]

I think that's the main reason why prx chose him. He is young so in case things don't work put they can still sell him and can get good bag

Yes, his aim is cleary not bad so yeah

yukky [#30]

can't believe i agree with skibidiyesyes

bro actually pulls up facts more often than the average vlr user

then why is monyet not the worst statistically for prx in madrid??

Slayerxnoob01 [#5]

Prx need to make a decision. Either monyet or mindfreak go.
Get xan Or any other t2 sg duelist.
I also feel that prx gamestyle is destroying monyet game.

Absolutely no team who just got top three at a tournament will ever make a change. Especially when they have a 2 week turnaround before the regular season. If they dont make it to the next masters and monyet is clearly the reason why then they might make a change, but that wont happen because they are still clearly top 2 in pacific.

Kaito_M8 [#28]

Hes mid i know & i made a couple post about that too. Why lead opinion to my country ? I dont think only indonesian defend him, no ? Dont you see it ?

Some of you glazed him last year because he played at RRQ as raze and when he played at GE as an smoker you blamed GE for putting him in a different role.

Kaito_M8 [#31]

Yes, his aim is cleary not bad so yeah

Prx gamestyle doesn't really suit him. He can do good on controller I assume but then mindfreak will have to go.
Prx need to get xan from t2. Monyet becoming 1 dimensional. Something already have low agent pool. Mindfreak is good on controller. So yeah a lot of issues for prx. Only forsaken flex is saving them in terms of role issues ar else they would have been fked up with role issues.
Prx need to make a decision between mindfreak and monyet.

honestly think monty has his moments however I just don't think he's up to the same standard as the other players on PRX except maybe mindfreak this tournament, I honestly think maybe he's the lakia of PRX, wouldn't put all the blame on him though cause I think it was just most of the team underpreforming

Orangepanda [#35]

Some of you glazed him last year because he played at RRQ as raze and when he played at GE as an smoker you blamed GE for putting him in a different role.

Well i see that too, while i personally not supporting monyet on raze, some of them are comparing his raze to lf raze & i think monyet better too on thiz comparation, no ?

I dont like it when you say that most of the people who defend monyet are indonesian while its clearly many people other than indonesian said chill, relax hes still young etc. I just think thats not fair

Ramshot [#37]

honestly think monty has his moments however I just don't think he's up to the same standard as the other players on PRX except maybe mindfreak this tournament, I honestly think maybe he's the lakia of PRX, wouldn't put all the blame on him though cause I think it was just most of the team underpreforming

nah bro -78 and haven't went positive all year is crazy.

Orangepanda [#14]

Most bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨 can't accept (delusional ) that monyet is mid

But monyet isn't mid. He's just not used to the PRX playstyle and has been a controller main for the last year. He's really good on smokes.

Slayerxnoob01 [#5]

Prx need to make a decision. Either monyet or mindfreak go.
Get xan Or any other t2 sg duelist.
I also feel that prx gamestyle is destroying monyet game.

mindfreak has proven his worth a long time ago
hes so consistent and barely has any bad games(id say the geng game was an exception)
monyet went negative on every series they played and the only thing that improved over time was how close he got to being positive so there really isnt a decision to make
edit: in my opinion they shouldnt make any changes yet the year literally just started but if one had to go it would be monyet

Kaito_M8 [#31]

Yes, his aim is cleary not bad so yeah

its not his aim just feels like he doesn't fit into the strat or just lost at times.

youre so right these few stats perfectly describe his value as a player and there's no other possible value he can add that isn't shown in KDA

1mBor3d [#43]

youre so right these few stats perfectly describe his value as a player and there's no other possible value he can add that isn't shown in KDA

cope :(

kanyefan4238173 [#33]

then why is monyet not the worst statistically for prx in madrid??

cuz vlr rating is fucked and is not exactly representative of how a player impacts the outcome of a game

smthlikeyou11 [#45]

cuz vlr rating is fucked and is not exactly representative of how a player impacts the outcome of a game

hes not worst in k/d or rating or acs or kast

in playoffs hes even better

kanyefan4238173 [#46]

hes not worst in k/d or rating or acs or kast

in playoffs hes even better

i agree mindfreak also underperformed too
thing is monyet is consistently subpar he will win u like a map and throw you two maps
mindreak has just been off recently idk what happened

arin2016 [#4]

They desperately want Monyet to be a good player so it doesn't look like their fav team got shit on by a weakened PRX

prx will never win a trophy

Alecks said in the post match interview that with monyet on the team it feels like they are abandoning the things they developed and learned for the past 3 years. Monyet also shares some of his ideas but alecks said they don't agree to him.

They don't have enough time to find another player but I hope that in the middle of split1 they will replace him. (not sure though if there is a roster lock)
RRQ, DRX, T1, TS, and maybe Talon can easily dismantle them at split1. GenG already exposed them.
Their chances going to Shanghai and Champs are very low with monyet. Even if they managed to qualify, they have no chance winning a trophy.

NekoSugarGirls17 [#49]

Alecks said in the post match interview that with monyet on the team it feels like they are abandoning the things they developed and learned for the past 3 years. Monyet also shares some of his ideas but alecks said they don't agree to him.

They don't have enough time to find another player but I hope that in the middle of split1 they will replace him. (not sure though if there is a roster lock)
RRQ, DRX, T1, TS, and maybe Talon can easily dismantle them at split1. GenG already exposed them.
Their chances going to Shanghai and Champs are very low with monyet. Even if they managed to qualify, they have no chance winning a trophy.

There we go. Glad to see him admit to it, w reply dude :)

The_shog [#34]

Absolutely no team who just got top three at a tournament will ever make a change. Especially when they have a 2 week turnaround before the regular season. If they dont make it to the next masters and monyet is clearly the reason why then they might make a change, but that wont happen because they are still clearly top 2 in pacific.

Honestly think DRX and T1 can beat PRX and be 2 and 3 they look strong

Ullyr [#39]

nah bro -78 and haven't went positive all year is crazy.

:/

NekoSugarGirls17 [#49]

Alecks said in the post match interview that with monyet on the team it feels like they are abandoning the things they developed and learned for the past 3 years. Monyet also shares some of his ideas but alecks said they don't agree to him.

They don't have enough time to find another player but I hope that in the middle of split1 they will replace him. (not sure though if there is a roster lock)
RRQ, DRX, T1, TS, and maybe Talon can easily dismantle them at split1. GenG already exposed them.
Their chances going to Shanghai and Champs are very low with monyet. Even if they managed to qualify, they have no chance winning a trophy.

Talon ?
Do you wanna hear something funny? surf is on the main roster.

Honestly, I don't think PACIFIC Rank it's change that much.
It's still PRX and 3 Korea dominated the scene.

this is such a horrible way to rate a player.

d4v41's stats:

Masters Madrid:
PRX vs Sen = -19
PRX vs Loud = -4
PRX vs GenG = +10
PRX vs KC = -1
PRX vs TH = -4
PRX vs EDG = -7

Nice only went positve on the match the got destroyed on.
-----------
Play Offs:
PRX vs GenG = -11
PRX vs T1 = -5

You wanna boot him off too? hE iS MiNuS -37 FoR the laST mAtChEs, get a grip buddy.
If you want this team to ever win something, kick off half the team and bring some order to their chaos, otherwise enjoy their W gaming and stop flaming certain players for no reason. Keep coping if you believe they would've made finals with jingg

youngbonk [#53]

Talon ?
Do you wanna hear something funny? surf is on the main roster.

Honestly, I don't think PACIFIC Rank it's change that much.
It's still PRX and 3 Korea dominated the scene.

What about him? Not being sarcastic. I don't know about surf. Also who will he replace. They have 6 active players rn.

germannils [#54]

this is such a horrible way to rate a player.

d4v41's stats:

Masters Madrid:
PRX vs Sen = -19
PRX vs Loud = -4
PRX vs GenG = +10
PRX vs KC = -1
PRX vs TH = -4
PRX vs EDG = -7

Nice only went positve on the match the got destroyed on.
-----------
Play Offs:
PRX vs GenG = -11
PRX vs T1 = -5

You wanna boot him off too? hE iS MiNuS -37 FoR the laST mAtChEs, get a grip buddy.
If you want this team to ever win something, kick off half the team and bring some order to their chaos, otherwise enjoy their W gaming and stop flaming certain players for no reason. Keep coping if you believe they would've made finals with jingg

At least he is igl

germannils [#54]

this is such a horrible way to rate a player.

d4v41's stats:

Masters Madrid:
PRX vs Sen = -19
PRX vs Loud = -4
PRX vs GenG = +10
PRX vs KC = -1
PRX vs TH = -4
PRX vs EDG = -7

Nice only went positve on the match the got destroyed on.
-----------
Play Offs:
PRX vs GenG = -11
PRX vs T1 = -5

You wanna boot him off too? hE iS MiNuS -37 FoR the laST mAtChEs, get a grip buddy.
If you want this team to ever win something, kick off half the team and bring some order to their chaos, otherwise enjoy their W gaming and stop flaming certain players for no reason. Keep coping if you believe they would've made finals with jingg

davai is not playing duelist role and entrying he's igl/playing supportive roles. Going negative is not as bad when you compared it to monyet. Even then davai stats -37 >> -78 clears midyet all day. Idk why you don't even factor the role they're filling into playing. Being this down bad negative when one of your main role is entry is terrible.

Famouz would be good
he can play duelist and initator and he looks good in t3

germannils [#54]

this is such a horrible way to rate a player.

d4v41's stats:

Masters Madrid:
PRX vs Sen = -19
PRX vs Loud = -4
PRX vs GenG = +10
PRX vs KC = -1
PRX vs TH = -4
PRX vs EDG = -7

Nice only went positve on the match the got destroyed on.
-----------
Play Offs:
PRX vs GenG = -11
PRX vs T1 = -5

You wanna boot him off too? hE iS MiNuS -37 FoR the laST mAtChEs, get a grip buddy.
If you want this team to ever win something, kick off half the team and bring some order to their chaos, otherwise enjoy their W gaming and stop flaming certain players for no reason. Keep coping if you believe they would've made finals with jingg

FNS himself see david as a great player. He knows what he is saying so it means you are braindead.

BackoxyXD [#56]

At least he is igl

i thought forsaken was the igl?

taejuny [#51]

Honestly think DRX and T1 can beat PRX and be 2 and 3 they look strong

Thank you. I have been saying that T1 is still in the running for best team in APAC. They lost one series this year — to PRX. Can’t wait for Stage 1

NekoSugarGirls17 [#59]

FNS himself see david as a great player. He knows what he is saying so it means you are braindead.

Yeah thanks, right back at ya.
Not what I wrote. Maybe a bit slower for the people with a learning disablity:

"this is such a horrible way to rate a player"
---> Rating a player on KD alone and not on impac during a game is useless.
---> Just because d4v41 goes negative in most games doesn't mean he is useless and should be replaced.

Great that your buddy fenis said d4v41 is a great player. Last I heard he wasn't shitting on monyet so you'll have to find another streamer to make your opinion for you. All I heard him say is that the entire PRX team is dogshit and plays like ascendants in ranked. Don't really see how that is Monyets fault, they've been this bad since I started watching VCT.

smthlikeyou11 [#47]

i agree mindfreak also underperformed too
thing is monyet is consistently subpar he will win u like a map and throw you two maps
mindreak has just been off recently idk what happened

i like monyet, but he (mindfreak) is often asked to play viper instead of trad smokes due to monyet, and even then what can he really do when he is usually last alive against numbers? Cannot be expecting him to consistently get those 1v4s

KDA literally makes no difference in Val though. In CS sure but in Val it doesn't effect shit. He's doing his job as a duelist by grabbing a lot of space aggresively and then holding it or taking first fights. This is such a low elo take it's crazy

Hashib [#60]

i thought forsaken was the igl?

There is no igl. It is that davai does most of the calling, but overall it is more of a democratic system.

"OMG LOOK HE'S HOLDING HIS TEAMMATE TO FIND A MASSIVE SUCCESS. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE NO BIGGER PROBLEM BY DROPPING HIM IN THE START/MIDDLE OF THE SEASON AND FIND SOMEONE MIRACULOUSLY BETTER THAN THEIR PREVIOUS SUPERSTAR DUELIST FROM T2 OR T3 OR EVEN RANKED PLAYER AND BOOM!!! LOOK THEY WON THEIR FIRST TROPHY FOR THEIR REGION!!! I'M THE BIGGEST FAN OF THIS TEAM."

y'all are braindead bullshit.

Warlordwibz [#66]

Midnyet

Mony0y

MonYEET

agreed

aartagnan [#67]

"OMG LOOK HE'S HOLDING HIS TEAMMATE TO FIND A MASSIVE SUCCESS. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE NO BIGGER PROBLEM BY DROPPING HIM IN THE START/MIDDLE OF THE SEASON AND FIND SOMEONE MIRACULOUSLY BETTER THAN THEIR PREVIOUS SUPERSTAR DUELIST FROM T2 OR T3 OR EVEN RANKED PLAYER AND BOOM!!! LOOK THEY WON THEIR FIRST TROPHY FOR THEIR REGION!!! I'M THE BIGGEST FAN OF THIS TEAM."

y'all are braindead bullshit.

indo and dickriding m0nyet, name a better duo 😹

uwukitten [#69]

indo and dickriding m0nyet, name a better duo 😹

i believe that he doesn't fit prx playstyle (at least for now) and didn't deliver a good performances based on the stats. Do i think he's disappointing? yes. Do i think he deserves to be out ASAP? No. Is it hard to understand such a simple thing?

WhoseTao [#63]

i like monyet, but he (mindfreak) is often asked to play viper instead of trad smokes due to monyet, and even then what can he really do when he is usually last alive against numbers? Cannot be expecting him to consistently get those 1v4s

thats part of the reason definitely too u cant perform if ur constantly in deficit situations

Months of prep and still say you’re not comfortable playing raze, all while knowing from the start you need to replace their raze is crazy.
Kick this fraud out.

Orangepanda [#35]

Some of you glazed him last year because he played at RRQ as raze and when he played at GE as an smoker you blamed GE for putting him in a different role.

he played at RRQ as raze

Bro just spread lies casually

Orangepanda [#20]

Most of them are monyet bandwagons from this flag 🇲🇨

bro had a fnatic flair before sen made it to playoffs and now bro bandwagoned a sen flair

no one said his contract extended, so probably end of this year, also finding good raze aint easy beside jingg.

the problem with paper rex is that because something's roles are so limited and team comps for these maps are evolving, what happened with jinggg can't happen again every map (forcing comfort picks/ double duelist), they should have brought in Xan as a direct replacement for Jinggg, rather than Monyet's weird Raze/Controller agent pool

People who defend Monyet are Indonesian, they are known for denying reality

germannils [#62]

Yeah thanks, right back at ya.
Not what I wrote. Maybe a bit slower for the people with a learning disablity:

"this is such a horrible way to rate a player"
---> Rating a player on KD alone and not on impac during a game is useless.
---> Just because d4v41 goes negative in most games doesn't mean he is useless and should be replaced.

Great that your buddy fenis said d4v41 is a great player. Last I heard he wasn't shitting on monyet so you'll have to find another streamer to make your opinion for you. All I heard him say is that the entire PRX team is dogshit and plays like ascendants in ranked. Don't really see how that is Monyets fault, they've been this bad since I started watching VCT.

Of course KDA is only one aspect to rate a player. People weren't saying he's bad just because he has low KDA.

Ullyr [#39]

nah bro -78 and haven't went positive all year is crazy.

worry about yourself pal lakia clears all in the end anyways

Slayerxnoob01 [#5]

Prx need to make a decision. Either monyet or mindfreak go.
Get xan Or any other t2 sg duelist.
I also feel that prx gamestyle is destroying monyet game.

Mindfreak ? You don't understand the game if you say he is bad he is probably one of the 3 most crucial players for prx. He isn't a fragger fs but his controllers and his clutch efficiency is top class the round is never over if its mindfreak

Enquiemmm [#77]

People who defend Monyet are Indonesian, they are known for denying reality

While i personally not defending monyet as indonesian, You fool dont see other people across nation defend monyet too & you only want to lead peoples opinion to see that people who defend monyet are only indonesian. Shame on you

Enquiemmm [#78]

Of course KDA is only one aspect to rate a player. People weren't saying he's bad just because he has low KDA.

thats literally what the post is about.

W

Kaito_M8 [#81]

While i personally not defending monyet as indonesian, You fool dont see other people across nation defend monyet too & you only want to lead peoples opinion to see that people who defend monyet are only indonesian. Shame on you

Not in football, not in Valorant, it's the same, it's really difficult. emang susah bang klo orang dah benci.

Ballsamolee [#65]

There is no igl. It is that davai does most of the calling, but overall it is more of a democratic system.

nope, f0rsaken usually do the call and make the strats. But yeah all of them make calls too

dogexyz [#85]

nope, f0rsaken usually do the call and make the strats. But yeah all of them make calls too

Oh really? I thought davai did a lot of the calling. Thanks for telling me.