No second/third nade. Nade proximity lowered. Nade damage lowered by 40%. Boombot damage lowered by 30%. Boombot tracking speed lowered by 40%.
No other duelist is at the same level as Raze which is why she dominates every map she is picked on, against a Jett. This is the only reason why some players are even relevant. NERF RAZE and leave Viper the fuck alone.
Shawn23 [#2]idiot, raze hardest duelist to play
raze dosent need a nerf the players who player her do
viper is the only character that needs a nerf in the game currently.
You fucking mong. Raze has util that basically clears the entire site by herself. She can take up so much fucking space. No other agent has the liberty to clear space with just her fucking util as a duelist. And at a high level, she's pretty easy to play. The same can't be said about Jett whose nerf pretty much handicapped her movement.
Using your logic, it's not Viper who needs a nerf but players that do her util justice that do.
MuZe [#3]make a non-dive duelist op so we finally see some variety other than jett and raze
Agreed. All these kids want Viper and Reyna to be nerfed because they are too fucking lazy. Never seen the fanbase of a game blame their mistakes on the game instead of themselves lol.
samhatts [#7]Bro must be a viper main, viper needs to have her ceiling lowered cause viper is oppressive at proplay and ok in ranked
Firstly. the game doesn't revolve around pro play. Secondly, her ceiling has been lowered to the perfect level. Teams don't know how to work around her util during her regeneration period. They are yet to figure it out.
Classic powercreep case
40% is a large decrease, so much so that you could just tank a whole raze nade at an angle. I do think removing the charges may be a good change as well as damage by boombot
Also nerf viper, just make it so she has set charges to when she can put up her orb and wall (probably 2) this would solve pretty much everything. If you don't think viper needs a slight nerf at the pro level, your tweaking
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#10]Is it really necessary to nerf Raze? I think it’s really just the low ceiling of other duelists (e.g. Neon, Phoenix, Reyna).
I just think it's cause raze, jett and yoru are just much better a dive, and with how strong some agents are at stalling with util (viper) its just impossible to get through without an agent with mobility to increase space. I think Neon will definitely see some more play with TH showing how to utilise her correctly, but phoenix and reyna are truly a lost cause
Ryszafiell [#8]Firstly. the game doesn't revolve around pro play. Secondly, her ceiling has been lowered to the perfect level. Teams don't know how to work around her util during her regeneration period. They are yet to figure it out.
Teams don't know how to work around her util during her regeneration period. They are yet to figure it out.
Doesnt matter now cuz harbor viper comps
Semen-1 [#11]I just think it's cause raze, jett and yoru are just much better a dive, and with how strong some agents are at stalling with util (viper) its just impossible to get through without an agent with mobility to increase space. I think Neon will definitely see some more play with TH showing how to utilise her correctly, but phoenix and reyna are truly a lost cause
You... you know ball
MuZe [#3]make a non-dive duelist op so we finally see some variety other than jett and raze
Chamber 😳
Vianx11 [#12]Teams don't know how to work around her util during her regeneration period. They are yet to figure it out.
Doesnt matter now cuz harbor viper comps
pov: its february 2023
Asuna_Yuuki [#14]Chamber 😳
I am down for that again, need more overpowered agents for entertainment. riot is too pussy to make a character op on release after chamber
samhatts [#7]Bro must be a viper main, viper needs to have her ceiling lowered cause viper is oppressive at proplay and ok in ranked
have u ever considered that is because other controller fucking sucks dick? i mean look at brim and astra. their ability can't be re-obtained after use which IS suck. omen + viper is the play to anchor a site.
why would you nerf a perfectly balanced duelist?
only thing dangerous from he was her " hEre CoMEs thE pARty" voice
UsedCondom [#17]have u ever considered that is because other controller fucking sucks dick? i mean look at brim and astra. their ability can't be re-obtained after use which IS suck. omen + viper is the play to anchor a site.
They don't? The other controllers have decent pickrates in ranked and proplay. Non rechargeable utility is fine astra and brim aren't in a bad state. Brim has a good ranked win rate, astra maybe wants her suck reverted. Also omen is better on attack side and astra is a better defender.
Ryszafiell [#5]You fucking mong. Raze has util that basically clears the entire site by herself. She can take up so much fucking space. No other agent has the liberty to clear space with just her fucking util as a duelist. And at a high level, she's pretty easy to play. The same can't be said about Jett whose nerf pretty much handicapped her movement.
Using your logic, it's not Viper who needs a nerf but players that do her util justice that do.
pov: you just got hard diffed by a raze in a ranked match.
if its really easy to play in high levels, why isn't everyone good at it?
as a raze main i can give my 2 cents:
Raze is not a good agent without good levels of team play, if im diving into site i need an early dart, a drone/dog/flash and teammates flushing in with me.
if none of those conditions are met, i just get shot out of the air by 2 people holding site and now its a 4v5 for my team without a dive duelist.
Raze's util does help her be self sustainable, but you can't do solo entries like jett/yoru can with just a smoke and a dash or tp into a safe spot. You also need good movement with satchels.
Raze is in a good spot in valorant rn, you are just coping cuz you got destroyed in a ranked game
AND DONT GET ME TALKING ABOUT THE ULT, THAT DON'T KILL BRO 😭😭
Ryszafiell [#5]You fucking mong. Raze has util that basically clears the entire site by herself. She can take up so much fucking space. No other agent has the liberty to clear space with just her fucking util as a duelist. And at a high level, she's pretty easy to play. The same can't be said about Jett whose nerf pretty much handicapped her movement.
Using your logic, it's not Viper who needs a nerf but players that do her util justice that do.
raze utility doesn't clear so much as you say. The only difference in VCT / high level is teams use other util to confine players into one region and then raze nade. Raze on her self is pretty much useless
edit: not useless but I don't think shes overpowered to require a nerf
number2_cNed_fan [#20]pov: you just got hard diffed by a raze in a ranked match.
if its really easy to play in high levels, why isn't everyone good at it?as a raze main i can give my 2 cents:
Raze is not a good agent without good levels of team play, if im diving into site i need an early dart, a drone/dog/flash and teammates flushing in with me.
if none of those conditions are met, i just get shot out of the air by 2 people holding site and now its a 4v5 for my team without a dive duelist.
Raze's util does help her be self sustainable, but you can't do solo entries like jett/yoru can with just a smoke and a dash or tp into a safe spot. You also need good movement with satchels.
Raze is in a good spot in valorant rn, you are just coping cuz you got destroyed in a ranked gameAND DONT GET ME TALKING ABOUT THE ULT, THAT DON'T KILL BRO 😭😭
you're hard coping bro
bladee666 [#24]you're hard coping bro
i was about to start an intelligent conversation, then i saw ur username and realized that its not possible to have one.
Ryszafiell [#5]You fucking mong. Raze has util that basically clears the entire site by herself. She can take up so much fucking space. No other agent has the liberty to clear space with just her fucking util as a duelist. And at a high level, she's pretty easy to play. The same can't be said about Jett whose nerf pretty much handicapped her movement.
Using your logic, it's not Viper who needs a nerf but players that do her util justice that do.
ong bro
you know someone is tripping when they think a character being hard is a valid reason for them to be strong (and frankly she is not even that hard compared to some characters of other games out there) because difficulty hardly matters as good players will be good at almost anything in the game regardless of the difficulty as they grind the game daily and it's not rocket science
Shawn23 [#2]idiot, raze hardest duelist to play
raze dosent need a nerf the players who player her do
viper is the only character that needs a nerf in the game currently.
pls no viper is perfect
number2_cNed_fan [#20]pov: you just got hard diffed by a raze in a ranked match.
if its really easy to play in high levels, why isn't everyone good at it?as a raze main i can give my 2 cents:
Raze is not a good agent without good levels of team play, if im diving into site i need an early dart, a drone/dog/flash and teammates flushing in with me.
if none of those conditions are met, i just get shot out of the air by 2 people holding site and now its a 4v5 for my team without a dive duelist.
Raze's util does help her be self sustainable, but you can't do solo entries like jett/yoru can with just a smoke and a dash or tp into a safe spot. You also need good movement with satchels.
Raze is in a good spot in valorant rn, you are just coping cuz you got destroyed in a ranked gameAND DONT GET ME TALKING ABOUT THE ULT, THAT DON'T KILL BRO 😭😭
This is a W take.
Raze only looks good on pro play, genuinely because of team play, and their mastery of the agent. If you solo queue Raze on ranked you will have to bet on your life that you get teammates with good util and comms, if you entry without absolutely no help then you are completely fucked. I really think people should stop suggesting meta changes every damn time due to VCT. You are not as good as them, and you cannot replicate the same manner of skill they have, and you most likely do not do the same comps, and strats on competitive.
number2_cNed_fan [#25]i was about to start an intelligent conversation, then i saw ur username and realized that its not possible to have one.
there's no intelligent conversation to have because your points are shit bro
"Raze is not a good agent without good levels of team play, if im diving into site i need an early dart, a drone/dog/flash and teammates flushing in with me." so what? that goes for most characters... and we're assuming a scenario where there is good levels of team play because that should be the standard
your failing entries have nothing to do with the point and the ultimate is so fucking strong because it does like a bunch of stuff at the same time. it's a 1 hit ko aoe ultimate which also gets space because no one wanna fuck with the ultimate, it's one of the strongest ultimates in the game
her util is super good, she gets so much space with her drones, nade, and her dive. even the banana guy, despite being a fraud, says that raze is super strong in ranked
also it's funny when you say raze needs teamplay when her kit is so complete that allows her to be really useful without the team assisting her that much unlike the other duelists just because she is so useful
number2_cNed_fan [#25]i was about to start an intelligent conversation, then i saw ur username and realized that its not possible to have one.
also LMAO
"raze is in a good spot", yes, she is played in almost EVERY map in the current rotation
what are you on lil bro
matches are literally defined by which team has the better raze, yet she is fine?
good movement with SATCHELS? you learn that in a hour. it's not like its quake cpma which you don't know because you're a zoomer, so you think raze is somewhat hard lmao
bladee666 [#29]there's no intelligent conversation to have because your points are shit bro
"Raze is not a good agent without good levels of team play, if im diving into site i need an early dart, a drone/dog/flash and teammates flushing in with me." so what? that goes for most characters... and we're assuming a scenario where there is good levels of team play because that should be the standard
your failing entries have nothing to do with the point and the ultimate is so fucking strong because it does like a bunch of stuff at the same time. it's a 1 hit ko aoe ultimate which also gets space because no one wanna fuck with the ultimate, it's one of the strongest ultimates in the game
her util is super good, she gets so much space with her drones, nade, and her dive. even the banana guy, despite being a fraud, says that raze is super strong in rankedalso it's funny when you say raze needs teamplay when her kit is so complete that allows her to be really useful without the team assisting her that much unlike the other duelists just because she is so useful
solid bait, i'll give it a 5/8
bladee666 [#30]also LMAO
"raze is in a good spot", yes, she is played in almost EVERY map in the current rotation
what are you on lil bro
matches are literally defined by which team has the better raze, yet she is fine?
good movement with SATCHELS? you learn that in a hour. it's not like its quake cpma which you don't know because you're a zoomer, so you think raze is somewhat hard lmao
“I am an instalock Jett that gets duelist diffed by Raze mains every ranked match pls nerf raze”
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#34]“I am an instalock Jett that gets duelist diffed by Raze mains every ranked match pls nerf raze”
i main raze
samhatts [#19]They don't? The other controllers have decent pickrates in ranked and proplay. Non rechargeable utility is fine astra and brim aren't in a bad state. Brim has a good ranked win rate, astra maybe wants her suck reverted. Also omen is better on attack side and astra is a better defender.
i don't believe that since im a controller player. play with braindead people is SO hard, i can't hesitate on smokes when they can't handle a pop into site. that is why i believe those 2 SUCK ASS.
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