same as the old sym
https://www.vlr.gg/212530/m80-vs-moist-moguls-challengers-league-north-america-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/212537/moist-moguls-vs-the-guard-challengers-league-north-america-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/212529/the-guard-vs-moist-moguls-challengers-league-north-america-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/314896/m80-vs-tsm-challengers-league-2024-north-america-stage-1-w1
wowzerswow [#2]"why did moist keep mada over sym"
i remember thinking the same thing
forgot how much of a bot he can be at times its acc crazy
justo [#4]I didn’t know much about these T2 guys so I questioned why MxM didn’t keep everyone together. Obviously there is many more games to go but so far I am feeling like MxS is an upgrade from the old MxM roster
losing aproto was a downgrade but sym for mada has aged really well so far(even outside the reverse pi sym just dropped which is just one game and the kid does have talent if im being real, mada has looked great so far)
think MxM would have kept the gang together if they could have afforded it but i assume they merged because it wouldnt have been sustainable without shopify who are filthy rich iirc
finnwithtwons [#5]losing aproto was a downgrade but sym for mada has aged really well so far(even outside the reverse pi sym just dropped which is just one game and the kid does have talent if im being real, mada has looked great so far)
think MxM would have kept the gang together if they could have afforded it but i assume they merged because it wouldnt have been sustainable without shopify who are filthy rich iirc
bdog would have also been better than sym
https://www.vlr.gg/212524/m80-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-north-america-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/196142/shopify-rebellion-vs-disguised-challengers-league-north-america-w7
https://www.vlr.gg/169008/g2-esports-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-north-america-w5
lol we can do the same about mada. Sym was dropping good numbers during his qual run, you cant look at one bad recent performance and 3 bad performance from the entirety of 2023 challengers league and say he's bad. if he continues going hella negative, then sure, but it's been one match.
GhostKing44 [#7]https://www.vlr.gg/212524/m80-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-north-america-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/196142/shopify-rebellion-vs-disguised-challengers-league-north-america-w7
https://www.vlr.gg/169008/g2-esports-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-north-america-w5
lol we can do the same about mada. Sym was dropping good numbers during his qual run, you cant look at one bad recent performance and 3 bad performance from the entirety of 2023 challengers league and say he's bad. if he continues going hella negative, then sure, but it's been one match.
no not the same actually. mada is on his main role now, thats why mxs picked him over bdog/sym. although bdog is quite good himself
kanyefan4238173 [#8]no not the same actually. mada is on his main role now, thats why mxs picked him over bdog/sym. although bdog is quite good himself
mada was raze flex for like 2-3 years, he had plenty of time to get used to it lol
GhostKing44 [#9]mada was raze flex for like 2-3 years, he had plenty of time to get used to it lol
and then look now at how much better he is at duelist
his game is just better on jett and raze
GhostKing44 [#7]https://www.vlr.gg/212524/m80-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-north-america-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/196142/shopify-rebellion-vs-disguised-challengers-league-north-america-w7
https://www.vlr.gg/169008/g2-esports-vs-shopify-rebellion-challengers-league-north-america-w5
lol we can do the same about mada. Sym was dropping good numbers during his qual run, you cant look at one bad recent performance and 3 bad performance from the entirety of 2023 challengers league and say he's bad. if he continues going hella negative, then sure, but it's been one match.
i just picked the four most recent matches he played in tier two actually
also its clearly not the same: mada is playing a different role than he was on shopify + is on a way better team, and those matches are not the four most recent matches he played in tier two - one of them is from split 1 LMFAO
sym is a talented player that put up good numbers on average for MxM - he had the second best entry stats in t2 na and clearly doesnt bait - but still theres a pretty clear story being told in those games that reveals a consistent trend he showed when playing in those games. personally i never forgot him repeeking a short on haven against tex op v op and getting eviscerated
kanyefan4238173 [#6]bdog would have also been better than sym
sym had significantly better entry stats in challengers last year, lets not be braindead here
finnwithtwons [#3]i remember thinking the same thing
forgot how much of a bot he can be at times its acc crazy
He is so inconsistent holy
finnwithtwons [#12]sym had significantly better entry stats in challengers last year, lets not be braindead here
That doesn't make him a better player though, lets not be braindead here since it's not all about stats lol, anyone who has seen sym and bdog play knows bdog is better
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