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EU people, who's winning sen vs TH?

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#20
Psion
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you cannot seriously evaluate the first and second time KC played the same way lol

#21
Gummybears
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everytime optic/nrg and loud play is different but that 'MATCHUP' is considered the el classico of valorant

#23
Psion
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the way that LOUD and Optics MATCHED UP changed between games. having the same players and staff does not mean the match/matchup is the same

#24
Gummybears
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its not the same because how you MATCHUP (verb) can change, but it's still the same MATCHUP (noun) because its the same teams playing

#25
Psion
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you just contradicted yourself lmao

#26
Gummybears
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lets say the KC and FNC matchup a year ago would have been very one sided but THAT SAME MATCHUP now would be in KCs favor

#27
Psion
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so the only thing you use to determine matchups is org? so heretics vs g2 2020 is the same matchup as heretics vs g2 2024?

#28
Gummybears
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TEAM NOT ORG
like optic -> nrg would basically be considered the same team

#29
Psion
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how tf is KC vs FNC the same matchup this year and last year then lol, only Shin was on the team last year

#30
Gummybears
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I use the standard of wether vlr considers the team the same, so click into the team page and matches, it combines optic and nrg.

there's also this thing on vlr called HEAD TO HEAD
which is basically the MATCHUP I'm talking about

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