Only gonna take like top 3-4 teams from each league, not gonna do anything past like B tier
S: SEN, PRX, LOUD (Title Contenders)
A+:NRG (fraud) >> KC > HERETICS (Potential Title Contenders)
B: 100T, NAVI, EDG, T1, FPX, DRX
number2_cNed_fan [#2]how is 100T here
LEV/100T looked solid in americas, americas is top heavy and most competitive league lol. I'd give 100t/lev a shot vs most of the B Tier teams, and this is a sentiment echoed by a lot of NA pros like FNS, s0m etc
jaynewton [#3]LEV/100T looked solid in americas, americas is top heavy and most competitive league lol. I'd give 100t/lev a shot vs most of the B Tier teams, and this is a sentiment echoed by a lot of NA pros like FNS, s0m etc
im fine with LEV, its a decent team with the goat himself, but 100T didn't look that good
number2_cNed_fan [#4]im fine with LEV, its a decent team with the goat himself, but 100T didn't look that good
fair enough, i could easily have them in B Tier as well.
pluu [#6]how is geng in a-tier when they won 2 maps 13 4 against prx?
I dont think that qualifies them as title contenders, since we literally havent seen a single team from APAC in the last 3 years outside of DRX and PRX do ANYTHING notable ( at least top 4) in international events, sure they may look good, but once they get to the events they usually bomb out and dont get any higher than like 8th. PRX is proven skill, Gen G is potential, they have to prove it in an international i think
Ullyr [#8]100T shouldn't even be in B tier lol
This is just delusion on your part bro, 100T is AT LEAST B tier, could be higher. Many pros like FNS and s0m have said that they look GOOD. Like even coaches have praised them. I'll trust them over you, and they had close losses to peak teams like SEN and LEV. SEN and LEV would easily shit on all of B tier btw.
destroylonely [#10]Heretics are still A+, doubt they will compete with NRG, LOUD, SEN, PRX
Also GEN.G should be A+ imo maybe even S
Yeah I feel that way as well, but then ppl would come in here and say I'm biased lol. They're all rookies, and i dont doubt their potential over 2024, but you're right, they should be A+ at best because they havent proven themselves internationally yet
number2_cNed_fan [#4]im fine with LEV, its a decent team with the goat himself, but 100T didn't look that good
They put a map up on both Sen and Lev. Definitely need work still, but I wouldn't say they were bad.
CowboySG [#14]They put a map up on both Sen and Lev. Definitely need work still, but I wouldn't say they were bad.
would you put them on the same tier as FNC, and higher than NaVi??
jaynewton [#9]This is just delusion on your part bro, 100T is AT LEAST B tier, could be higher. Many pros like FNS and s0m have said that they look GOOD. Like even coaches have praised them. I'll trust them over you, and they had close losses to peak teams like SEN and LEV. SEN and LEV would easily shit on all of B tier btw.
100T are scam artists they play up to the level of the teams they match and basically nearly always choke or barely wins. This current iteration is the most inconsistent shit i've seen in terms of pro teams. You think they look good cause they play up to good teams then you realized they just choke against a terrible team on paper.
meyournightmare [#12]NAVI better than FNC
HERETICS 2-0 KC in groups
NAVI better than FNC
i didn't realize you excelled in comedy
bearmans [#18]GENG is A+
Nah not until we see them prove it at an international, outside of PRX and DRX there hasnt been a top 4 apac team yet in the last 3 years
tamamamamamduacs [#19]sen S?????????????????
yeah, they're good asf rn, top 3 in americas which is the most competitive league rn, and they could def win a title
jaynewton [#7]I dont think that qualifies them as title contenders, since we literally havent seen a single team from APAC in the last 3 years outside of DRX and PRX do ANYTHING notable ( at least top 4) in international events, sure they may look good, but once they get to the events they usually bomb out and dont get any higher than like 8th. PRX is proven skill, Gen G is potential, they have to prove it in an international i think
fair enough, but i think you shouldnt completly rule them out just because of no proven talent internationally
number2_cNed_fan [#17]NAVI better than FNC
i didn't realize you excelled in comedy
U did not even qualify for playoffs
meyournightmare [#25]U did not even qualify for playoffs
we were in the hardest group, atleast we made it a competition against Heretics 💀💀
number2_cNed_fan [#26]we were in the hardest group, atleast we made it a competition against Heretics 💀💀
NaVi did pose some competition in the first map as well, their mental was fucked up after throwing sunset they are very capable
jaynewton [#20]Nah not until we see them prove it at an international, outside of PRX and DRX there hasnt been a top 4 apac team yet in the last 3 years
when did Sentinels prove anything at an international lmao? 3 years ago? Also what other team apart of loud and eg were top 4? and u talking about apac like its an argument
pluu [#22]fair enough, but i think you shouldnt completly rule them out just because of no proven talent internationally
Bro says Sentinels S tier when the last time they went to a international was 3 yrs ago and won other then that they went 12 and 8th in na last place in lock in didnt make it out of groups in champions placed 5th-8th mastes they only won 1 international EVER and it was 3 yrs ago XD (they usually bomb out) yeah indeed they never made it out of groups outside of 1 masters 3yrs ago where they won
number2_cNed_fan [#15]would you put them on the same tier as FNC, and higher than NaVi??
Nah, low B tier for sure. But you can see the potential as a good team. Especially if Asuna stops Roza ulting lmao
Cael [#33]when did Sentinels prove anything at an international lmao? 3 years ago? Also what other team apart of loud and eg were top 4? and u talking about apac like its an argument
their players have... tenz and sacy are both world champs. zekken has been to lans and done well before. johnqt meh, but zellsis has also done well. point being, they're not rookies like KC/heretics.
NRG was also top 4 last year dumbass lmao. keep coping though
Cael [#32]Lmao Sen and prx S tier the only S tier part about sentinels is Sacy and Zekken
literally owned prx twice, they're chokers bro. also apac as a league is shit compared to americas
number2_cNed_fan [#4]im fine with LEV, its a decent team with the goat himself, but 100T didn't look that good
if you dont trust people like us saying that 100T looked good maybe listen to some of the pros or coaches that have said it
Americas right now is STACKED when youre comparing them to the other leagues 100T might be 5th in americas but theyll still be better than your second best team in a random league
blooperdooper45 [#39]Why drop SEN to A+ and keep NRG at S? If we're going based on who's the most proven NRG hasn't done anything yet besides beat 2 of the worst teams in Americas.
Cuz NRG has a much higher ceiling than SEN, and if i drop NRG to A+ then PRX should also be in A+ and then loud would be the only S tier team which makes zero sense, so its just a scale
jaynewton [#36]their players have... tenz and sacy are both world champs. zekken has been to lans and done well before. johnqt meh, but zellsis has also done well. point being, they're not rookies like KC/heretics.
NRG was also top 4 last year dumbass lmao. keep coping though
who is saying anything about nrg? yeah they were 4th in masters tokyo and then 9-12th at champions lol. keep coping tho. also you're restarted lmao tenz world champ? where? when did he win anything apart from 1 masters XD! you're delulu he qualified for 1 champions and went 9-12th
jaynewton [#42]Updated. LOUd are frauds, eg are legends
bro thinks i didn't see LOUD going to A tier when they lost that heavily anti stratted ascent 💀 💀
wykes [#43]bro thinks i didn't see LOUD going to A tier when they lost that heavily anti stratted ascent 💀 💀
LOL