i really hope kaplan keeps him on a flash initiator/omen or astra flex. I was advocating for him to get on viper but yea it wouldn’t fit his play style.
duelists going to smokes has worked a lot. (demon1, jawgemo, koalanoob, cryo, etc.) and it would be needed on maps like lotus where a sentinel + two smokes are needed
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WhoseTao [#3]zekken is a significantly better smoles imo i mean his omen on lotus was great
he played omen once, and you would really pick tenz on duelist over zekken? after the jett nerfs? 💀
babi [#7]yeah shut up
exactly. you just want to see him on jett missing every single op shot he takes.
michaelisupset [#9]exactly. you just want to see him on jett missing every single op shot he takes.
Nah TenZ just doesn't fit the smokes or sentinel playstyle.
StutterSt3p [#10]Nah TenZ just doesn't fit the smokes or sentinel playstyle.
he’s gotta learn to play one of those lmfao. cause zekken is gonna be on duelist and we all saw how sacy was on smokes
michaelisupset [#11]he’s gotta learn to play one of those lmfao. cause zekken is gonna be on duelist and we all saw how sacy was on smokes
They have pancada for smokes, you know that right?
StutterSt3p [#12]They have pancada for smokes, you know that right?
on maps like lotus and probably breeze where double controller + a sentinel is going to be meta, pancada on one of the smokes, johnqt on the sentinel. who is going to be playing the other smokes?
michaelisupset [#13]on maps like lotus and probably breeze where double controller + a sentinel is going to be meta, pancada on one of the smokes, johnqt on the sentinel. who is going to be playing the other smokes?
If they need a second smokes player it'll either be Sacy, or johnqt if no sentinel is being played, like on Bind.
michaelisupset [#5]he played omen once, and you would really pick tenz on duelist over zekken? after the jett nerfs? 💀
its possible that no duelist comps might be becoming meta on maps with double controller and double initiator, plus tenz would do better when playing a lurking duelist/solo duelist like reyna or yoru where he plays disconnected from the team and tries to get a pick or 2 on the other side; that is how he primarily has had his best performances as a duelist since marved being in the team
StutterSt3p [#14]If they need a second smokes player it'll either be Sacy, or johnqt if no sentinel is being played, like on Bind.
I understand that. john used to play second controller on m80. im talking about maps like lotus and breezs where there will be double controller and a sentinel. he will need to flex to smokes. we all saw how sacy looked on controller.
michaelisupset [#16]I understand that. john used to play second controller on m80. im talking about maps like lotus and breezs where there will be double controller and a sentinel. he will need to flex to smokes. we all saw how sacy looked on controller.
Sen would never choose TenZ over Sacy for smokes, either they'll switch TenZ to duelist and zekken to smokes, or Sacy will just play smokes. Also, I think you're vastly underestimating how good Sacy can be on smokes if it's just for a map or two.
TenZ just doesn't fit the smokes playstyle, and unless he wants to adapt his game to be able to play smokes, SEN will not put him on smokes.
StutterSt3p [#17]Sen would never choose TenZ over Sacy for smokes, either they'll switch TenZ to duelist and zekken to smokes, or Sacy will just play smokes. Also, I think you're vastly underestimating how good Sacy can be on smokes if it's just for a map or two.
TenZ just doesn't fit the smokes playstyle, and unless he wants to adapt his game to be able to play smokes, SEN will not put him on smokes.
I guess we’ll see but I think you are 100% wrong 😄
SaltyMcNulty [#18]stop cooking bro
i’m right 😄 who else is going to play second smokes in lotus? zekken? and put tenz on raze? 😄
michaelisupset [#20]i’m right 😄 who else is going to play second smokes in lotus? zekken? and put tenz on raze? 😄
sacy. TenZ on skye
michaelisupset [#22]yea let’s take the champs winner off his role again
Let's put our previous aggressive duelist player with basically no experience, on smokes, instead of the guy who played some omen for us last season.
StutterSt3p [#23]Let's put our previous aggressive duelist player with basically no experience, on smokes, instead of the guy who played some omen for us last season.
it’s almost as if there’s an entire offseason to prepare for this stuff
michaelisupset [#22]yea let’s take the champs winner off his role again
sacy played viper before and was good on it. If it's for one or two maps he will be fine with it. champs winner argument doesn't hold anymore cz he had somewhat of a bad season.
SaltyMcNulty [#25]sacy played viper before and was good on it. If it's for one or two maps he will be fine with it. champs winner argument doesn't hold anymore cz he had somewhat of a bad season.
sacy was never good on viper
https://www.vlr.gg/183787/leviat-n-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w3/?game=118959&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/183781/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w2
michaelisupset [#24]it’s almost as if there’s an entire offseason to prepare for this stuff
Yeah so surely Sacy can practice smokes for a couple of maps during that time. Plus, TenZ is going to mainly be practicing the role he's switching to, flash initiators since he's only played a bit of kayo.
StutterSt3p [#27]Yeah so surely Sacy can practice smokes for a couple of maps during that time. Plus, TenZ is going to mainly be practicing the role he's switching to, flash initiators since he's only played a bit of kayo.
or tenz can continue being a flex and sacy can continue being the main initiator for the team
michaelisupset [#26]sacy was never good on viper
https://www.vlr.gg/183787/leviat-n-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w3/?game=118959&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/183781/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w2
So...TenZ was negative on Jett, his best agent, and Sacy might not have done well on Viper in those games, but he was positive on Omen.
michaelisupset [#28]or tenz can continue being a flex and sacy can continue being the main initiator for the team
Yeah, but it doesn't make sense to make TenZ learn two entirely new roles for him, when all you could do is switch Sacy to smokes for a few maps. It's a minimal change and it allows TenZ more practice on the agents he's trying to learn. Also, if Sacy is really that bad at smokes, you can just pick those two maps as your preferred bans.
StutterSt3p [#29]So...TenZ was negative on Jett, his best agent, and Sacy might not have done well on Viper in those games, but he was positive on Omen.
I do not understand why tenz flexing to smokes bothers you so much LMFAO
michaelisupset [#31]I do not understand why tenz flexing to smokes bothers you so much LMFAO
Nah I think it would be cool if he did, I just hate bad logic that's all.
AstroGalaxy [#4]chet leaked that hes playing flash roles btw
Ig it's obvious. I was watching chet but didn't catch him commenting on the tenz announcement!
StutterSt3p [#32]Nah I think it would be cool if he did, I just hate bad logic that's all.
there is no bad logic. sacy is much better as the main initiator, and you’re acting like it takes rocket science to learn to ah omen/astra. demon1 learned how to in a matter of like 2 months.
michaelisupset [#31]I do not understand why tenz flexing to smokes bothers you so much LMFAO
It's not about bothering. TenZ style doesn't suit controller or sentinel but it doesn't really matter. Any player could play any agent just depends on how they incorporate him into the comp. Any argument about this is just foolish but if you ask what's ideal then just put tenz on flash initiators cz that's comfy for him and he already has to play multiple roles next year( duelist on double duelist comps, OP in chamber comps, flash initiators main). So already he has a lot on his plate, no need to over burden him with another new role.
michaelisupset [#36]there is no bad logic. sacy is much better as the main initiator, and you’re acting like it takes rocket science to learn to ah omen/astra. demon1 learned how to in a matter of like 2 months.
I don't understand how you say "you’re acting like it takes rocket science to learn to ah omen/astra" but can't wrap your head around the fact that that person doesn't have to be TenZ. Like maybe I'm wrong and he's secretly a smokes god, but nothing has indicated he is going to or wants to play smokes at all. And if you need to pick a secondary choice for smokes, and you can't pick johnqt, Sacy makes the most sense. Sacy literally played some Omen for SEN last year.
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