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F/A Team Winning Ascension

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sheriffykw

In Leo’s tweet, he cites concerns of “buying slots” and thats his reasoning for not letting the guard sign to a different org. I was just thinking about how if a free agent team was to win ascension, they are given 2 months to sign to an org. Isn’t this essentially just buying a slot for the VCT, like it would come down to who is willing to pay more money (to the players, not riot as the players are choosing the org)?

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Thriceistoocold
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Riot is little dumb

#3
sheriffykw
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Thriceistoocold [#2]

Riot is little dumb

Like am I reading into this too far, is that not buying a slot? Cause it really feels like it in that situation lmao

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Zaba
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Fuc* rito 🤬

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Rode_233
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The problem is not that teams will throw money at f/a players, the problem is that riot doesnt want orgs to sell the spot to another org without riot having any control.

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Targu1n
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Nah the worry is that an org wins -> sells slot and runs off with a profit
With FA theres no one selling, its just an org buying into t1 (which riot seems to be fine with)

And now before you use logic and ask how Guard just straight up dropping their roster and Riot picking an org that gets in instead would be selling it.... well ask riot cause I dont think anyone can answer that

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Warlordwibz
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Bonkers.

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beani
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yea but there's no transaction between orgs in that case. The concern is more about selling/buying

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sheriffykw
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Rode_233 [#5]

The problem is not that teams will throw money at f/a players, the problem is that riot doesnt want orgs to sell the spot to another org without riot having any control.

Fair.

I think in this situation, Riot should approach an organization that almost made their partnership program and just check if they would be willing to sign the players. They would have control on who gets in, and this is such a specific situation that they could add clauses with orgs in T2 afterwards.

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sheriffykw [#9]

Fair.

I think in this situation, Riot should approach an organization that almost made their partnership program and just check if they would be willing to sign the players. They would have control on who gets in, and this is such a specific situation that they could add clauses with orgs in T2 afterwards.

My bet would be that G2 (or my crazy pred... m80 with remaining guards/m80 players as the m80 and guard's guys will most likely get spots on partnered teams (valyn, trent --> c9 and koalanoob --> SEN e.g.)) gets the guest spot, everyone can agree that moving no-one up would be the worst precedent to up n coming pro's to worry about the org they are signed to. Would be crazy with the recession happening that players could be better off being orgless and not paid in stead of having an org.

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Not sure about this, but from what i have heard...

Ascension winning team will get 2 months to find an org, it can go into a bidding war but there is more to it. the possible org that signs the players have to be approved by riot at the first place. moreover, riot would help them find the org, probably the teams that ended up out of top 10 during the initial partnership. (xset, g2 or any other #11,12,13 team). Thus it wont be sold slot and moreoff signing bonus for the players as riot wont be charging any money to partner them and instead pay equvivalent to all other league teams.

In the Guard scenario, it was utter foolishness by the org to sign a team for a year till Ascension, and when the team won, you stop operations and dont sign the requried aggrements. all that while playing with players future. Coming to riots decesion, buying out roster from guard would be sold slot for the IL 2024. hence the decision seems to be fair for the integity of the game. However i feel bad for the players.

The most logical solution was to, ask players to play under the guard name or some generic name "NAA1" and pay the 500k to all the 5 players instead of the org while a small team from riot can manage the communication for next year. Win-Win for everyone.

This way the guard as an org is punished, players are safe guarded, slot selling is out of the picture..

i can be wrong on few points and i dont claim 100% authencity or correctness of any of it. Its from just what i have heard from different sources

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