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PoohShiesty [#3]He's just a figurehead.
He literally has the power to make these kinds of decisions, he's part of the reason why these guys aren't playing next year.
SquareMars [#9]He literally has the power to make these kinds of decisions, he's part of the reason why these guys aren't playing next year.
i don't think he does have that power. it's a decision involving a million-dollar investment by the company, the person doing what is essentially the PR for their product doesn't seem to me like somebody who would greatly impact it.
bleghfarec [#10]This is like asking for Roger Goodell to be fired from the NFL.
No, Roger Goodell is the CEO of the NFL.
Leo is the Global Head of Val Esports, he could be fired by higher management at riot.
SquareMars [#12]No, Roger Goodell is the CEO of the NFL.
Leo is the Global Head of Val Esports, he could be fired by higher management at riot.
Do you actually think Roger Goodell can't be fired? Who do you think controls the NFL?
bleghfarec [#13]Do you actually think Roger Goodell can't be fired? Who do you think controls the NFL?
The NFL is owned by a series of individual franchise owners
At the corporate level, the National Football League considers itself a trade association made up of and financed by its 32 member teams.
24/32 Owners would have to agree to fire Roger Goodall, whereas at riot it takes Nicolo Laurent's command.
Do research before you come at to someone.
bleghfarec [#10]This is like asking for Roger Goodell to be fired from the NFL.
do realize that the CEO's of these big companies are ran by board members who makes the decisions...CEOs are just puppets with a little leeway to do what they want.
edit... and the board has the power to fire and find and vote on a new CEO
SquareMars [#16]The NFL is owned by a series of individual franchise owners
At the corporate level, the National Football League considers itself a trade association made up of and financed by its 32 member teams.
24/32 Owners would have to agree to fire Roger Goodall, whereas at riot it takes Nicolo Laurent's command.
Do research before you come at to someone.
And your point being...?
queueK [#11]i don't think he does have that power. it's a decision involving a million-dollar investment by the company, the person doing what is essentially the PR for their product doesn't seem to me like somebody who would greatly impact it.
in conventional sports Leo Faria is the equivalent to Adam Silver and Ceferin, he absolutely does have the power
bleghfarec [#18]And your point being...?
It's significantly easier to fire Leo than Roger Goodell. It's not comparable.
feaN [#21]Its not his fault that The Guard is a stupid org I mean the worst org in the world, they have been informed.
It's not about the guard, who cares about the guard, it's about the players and coach - they had nothing to do with it and are F/A rn just give them a new team
Sk00d [#23]It's not about the guard, who cares about the guard, it's about the players and coach - they had nothing to do with it and are F/A rn just give them a new team
did you read his statement? they dont want the slots to be sold to another org and want to avoid that its simple
SquareMars [#22]It's significantly easier to fire Leo than Roger Goodell. It's not comparable.
That's irrelevant. Why would he be fired for doing his job?
My point is that Roger Goodell and Leo Faria serve the same purpose as "commissioner" of their respective leagues. The NFL is owned by their member teams, and the commissioner serves their interests. The VCT is owned in whole by Riot, and the commissioner serves their interests. They're being paid for a reason.
Do you actually think Leo has significant autonomy in how the VCT is being organized, when it mirrors so closely the systems Riot have put in place for League? He's made it clear that Riot view the VCT as the only professional league in Valorant, and this recent announcement makes it very clear that the VCT serves as a vehicle for Riot to maintain business relations with partnered/ascended organizations, not just as a league for players to compete professionally. Out of everyone, this decision benefits Riot the most, and that is its exact purpose.
feaN [#24]did you read his statement? they dont want the slots to be sold to another org and want to avoid that its simple
the guard players are all free agents, they could work with riot to find a suitable replacement
feaN [#24]did you read his statement? they dont want the slots to be sold to another org and want to avoid that its simple
I literally just said they are F/A, the org has nothing to do with it, no slots are being sold you absolute dimwit
SquareMars [#9]He literally has the power to make these kinds of decisions, he's part of the reason why these guys aren't playing next year.
Doesn't work like that in massive corporations like Riot.
Even if Riot fired him, he will be replaced with someone making the same exact decisions.
bleghfarec [#26]That's irrelevant. Why would he be fired for doing his job?
My point is that Roger Goodell and Leo Faria serve the same purpose as "commissioner" of their respective leagues. The NFL is owned by their member teams, and the commissioner serves their interests. The VCT is owned in whole by Riot, and the commissioner serves their interests. They're being paid for a reason.
Do you actually think Leo has significant autonomy in how the VCT is being organized, when it mirrors so closely the systems Riot have put in place for League? He's made it clear that Riot view the VCT as the only professional league in Valorant, and this recent announcement makes it very clear that the VCT serves as a vehicle for Riot to maintain business relations with partnered/ascended organizations, not just as a league for players to compete professionally. Out of everyone, this decision benefits Riot the most, and that is its exact purpose.
In your very first statement, he could be fired for doing a shit job.
Leo IS in control of how the VCT is run, it's in his x.com bio and he has stated publicly that he does control the vct circuit.
In your comparison to the LCS, League lets them sell their spots... Completely different scenario.
SquareMars [#30]In your very first statement, he could be fired for doing a shit job.
Leo IS in control of how the VCT is run, it's in his x.com bio and he has stated publicly that he does control the vct circuit.
In your comparison to the LCS, League lets them sell their spots... Completely different scenario.
Shit job? His bosses probably think he handled it well. :)
bleghfarec [#32]Shit job? His bosses probably think he handled it well. :)
now u realized you fucked up lol
SquareMars [#33]now u realized you fucked up lol
What? Are you like really bored or something? I don't think we actually disagree...
bleghfarec [#35]What? Are you like really bored or something? I don't think we actually disagree...
I'm waiting on my flight
We don't disagree, we just see things differently.
SquareMars [#36]I'm waiting on my flight
We don't disagree, we just see things differently.
Well, I don't agree with the way you see things at all, but I really didn't think I'd be commenting seven times on VLR tonight... and I probably should've stopped at one.
All in all, this is Riot's decision. Leo does their bidding and takes the blame for it, just like right now. He probably gets paid pretty handsomely to do it too. :)
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PoohShiesty [#29]Doesn't work like that in massive corporations like Riot.
Even if Riot fired him, he will be replaced with someone making the same exact decisions.
replace him with me and ill make valorant the greatest esport in the world
feaN [#24]did you read his statement? they dont want the slots to be sold to another org and want to avoid that its simple
even thought the whole "oh this will let other orgs buy ascension slot" is so braindead i won't even touch on that, just have riot pay them and let them play as free agents if you are so scared of setting this "terrible precedant," its not that hard
bleghfarec [#37]Well, I don't agree with the way you see things at all, but I really didn't think I'd be commenting seven times on VLR tonight... and I probably should've stopped at one.
All in all, this is Riot's decision. Leo does their bidding and takes the blame for it, just like right now. He probably gets paid pretty handsomely to do it too. :)
ok keep living in your world where the vct gets fucked up by some random guy in the shadows.
SquareMars [#41]ok keep living in your world where the vct gets fucked up by some random guy in the shadows.
Sorry that I'm looking at Riot as a business that maximizes profit...
bleghfarec [#42]Sorry that I'm looking at Riot as a business that maximizes profit...
bro get sober and then come back
Domination [#52]Why people like to blame it all on one person🗿 It clearly is Guard's fault and the decision by Riot isn't made by him only🗿
Yes it is the guard's fault, but the decision to kick out the 5 players entirely was done by leo.
He obviously could've let them find a new org to represent them.
SquareMars [#53]Yes it is the guard's fault, but the decision to kick out the 5 players entirely was done by leo.
He obviously could've let them find a new org to represent them.
wait I’m really curious why do you think it was entirely done by Leo?
are you 11? do you not realize that Leo Faria is literally just 1 person and he has to go through tons of management to even come to a decision?
do you really think Riot Games, a multimillion dollar company’s esports decisions are made by 1 SINGULAR PERSON?
Domination [#52]Why people like to blame it all on one person🗿 It clearly is Guard's fault and the decision by Riot isn't made by him only🗿
u are DEEPTHROATING his boot
omg baby dont choke, or do if thats your thing
bobkiller [#54]wait I’m really curious why do you think it was entirely done by Leo?
are you 11? do you not realize that Leo Faria is literally just 1 person and he has to go through tons of management to even come to a decision?
do you really think Riot Games, a multimillion dollar company’s esports decisions are made by 1 SINGULAR PERSON?
It might not be JUST Leo, but considering how he's ruining the vct he and many others should be fired.
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