imo as igl he is actually very good but as aimer ....

So is Boaster. i don't see his team losing

ShanksFan69 [#2]

So is Boaster. i don't see his team losing

good idea to compare superteam to decent team

Either he is 1v5ing or his team is 4v5ing whole match without smokes
there is no middle ground

When does Ange1 meets Demon1?

His is decent as of igls but he plays smokes n trys to create space for his team but dies inthe following

lwrrzzs [#3]

good idea to compare superteam to decent team

KEKW

lwrrzzs [#3]

good idea to compare superteam to decent team

Bruh i don't see much skill gap between them Navi is decent team cuz of Ange1 overcooking

NoOne_ButMe [#6]

His is decent as of igls but he plays smokes n trys to create space for his team but dies inthe following

his playing agro only when navi use double smoke comps

lwrrzzs [#9]

his playing agro only when navi use double smoke comps

Nah his solo omen tps are bizarre

ShanksFan69 [#8]

Bruh i don't see much skill gap between them Navi is decent team cuz of Ange1 overcooking

Shao=Leo
cNed<=Derke
ANGE1<=Boaster
suygetsu <= Chronicle
Zyppan << Alfajer

He's been mostly outcalled too for almost a year now. But yeah, him losing 95% of his aim duels and still taking first contact everytime is a HUGE problem

Yessirskiiii [#12]

He's been mostly outcalled too for almost a year now. But yeah, him losing 95% of his aim duels and still taking first contact everytime is a HUGE problem

navi losing a lot of post plants situations even with man advantages its not about outcalling

lwrrzzs [#13]

navi losing a lot of post plants situations even with man advantages its not about outcalling

I'm not talking about champs. His calling actually has been decent at Champs. Talking about Tokyo and LCQ. Also it is down to the coach and IGL to instill discipline in the players

Trash. Holding his team back

LifeIsALie [#11]

Shao=Leo
cNed<=Derke
ANGE1<=Boaster
suygetsu <= Chronicle
Zyppan << Alfajer

I downfragged when I aaw shao = leo then I looked down and upgraded.

Yessirskiiii [#12]

He's been mostly outcalled too for almost a year now. But yeah, him losing 95% of his aim duels and still taking first contact everytime is a HUGE problem

In losing duels, Ange1 has never reached 95%... In his most recent game, he won around 40% of his duels while losing the other 60%.

Where do you get those numbers?

I'd say he's frequently out call himself as in overcomplicating things rather than being plainly out called by someone.

unknown_trash [#16]

I downfragged when I aaw shao = leo then I looked down and upgraded.

shao does equal leo bro

shao doesnt have the god teammates to let him play sova and fade every game

and btw
IM NOT AT ALL SAYING LEO IS SHIT

LEO AND SHAO ARE BOTH LEGENDS