allowed to dring redbull on scene but not allowed to snus only because of partnership contract xd
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TrialRunnr [#2]Caffeine consumption is much more normalized in society and is much safer than nicotine🤷
bro if they would make world healthier they would ban nicotine on event not only on stage players still can smoke mid maps
lwrrzzs [#5]bro if they would make world healthier they would ban nicotine on event not only on stage players still can smoke mid maps
They dont want kids watching to be influenced to consume nicotine, they cant control what players do.
cboomer [#4]bros comparing caffeine to nicotine whomegalul
They're both CNS stimulants, they both increase heart rate, they are both addictive. Sure, nicotine might be a bit more addictive, but at the end of the day they're quite similar. What would you say is the decisive difference that makes a comparison unreasonable?
Yeetus [#9]one hurts other people while one only “hurts” yourself
almost had a stroke from my snus reading this i didnt realize i could cause issues to ppl in my proximity from snus
Yeetus [#9]one hurts other people while one only “hurts” yourself
true i just slipped one under my lip and my dad watching tv instantly exploded into microscopic pieces
EWW_EU_EWHO [#7]comparing caffeine to nicotine.. braindead
What would you say is the big difference? Because all I can find are similarities. They are both CNS stimulants that work in similar ways and have similar effects on the body and brain.
Breloof [#8]They're both CNS stimulants, they both increase heart rate, they are both addictive. Sure, nicotine might be a bit more addictive, but at the end of the day they're quite similar. What would you say is the decisive difference that makes a comparison unreasonable?
There are absolutely NO major health concerns that come with healthy amounts of caffeine where as nicotine affects virtually all your organs in a bad way lol
Breloof [#13]What would you say is the big difference? Because all I can find are similarities. They are both CNS stimulants that work in similar ways and have similar effects on the body and brain.
are you forgetting that nicotine is also a depressant, or just ignoring that.
please dont act like the usage of caffeine is as severe as nicotine, youre being disingenuous
cboomer [#14]There are absolutely NO major health concerns that come with healthy amounts of caffeine where as nicotine affects virtually all your organs in a bad way lol
Of course nicotine is overall a bit more dangerous than caffeine, but they're both legal, so why does Rito draw a line between them, when their performance enhancing effects are very comparable?
Also it's not like I'm saying coffee is as detrimental to health than snus, but redbull definitely is, there are plenty of negative effects on health that come with regular energy drink consumption, yet Riot actively promotes them while Banning snus, which feels a bit weird.
Breloof [#16]Of course nicotine is overall a bit more dangerous than caffeine, but they're both legal, so why does Rito draw a line between them, when their performance enhancing effects are very comparable?
Also it's not like I'm saying coffee is as detrimental to health than snus, but redbull definitely is, there are plenty of negative effects on health that come with regular energy drink consumption, yet Riot actively promotes them while Banning snus, which feels a bit weird.
found the nicotine addict
Breloof [#16]Of course nicotine is overall a bit more dangerous than caffeine, but they're both legal, so why does Rito draw a line between them, when their performance enhancing effects are very comparable?
Also it's not like I'm saying coffee is as detrimental to health than snus, but redbull definitely is, there are plenty of negative effects on health that come with regular energy drink consumption, yet Riot actively promotes them while Banning snus, which feels a bit weird.
theres no arguing if you can't understand nicotine is far more addictive, more dangerous to every part of your body.
Caffeine is literally included in several workout supplements in healthy doses but supposedly nicotine is only a "bit" more dangerous.
nicotine is for losers and bums and you are one if you justify the use of it lol
blueberry [#15]are you forgetting that nicotine is also a depressant, or just ignoring that.
please dont act like the usage of caffeine is as severe as nicotine, youre being disingenuous
I don't think caffeine is as severe as nicotine, of course not. I just don't see the justification for banning one while actively promoting the other.
In terms of performance enhancing effects for esports, they're comparable, or are they not?
And in terms of health, clearly nicotine in isolation is much worse than caffeine in isolation. But we're not talking about coffee here, we're talking about energy drinks, which have a variety of negative health impacts that differ from the effects of nicotine, but I would argue are comparable in severity.
I haven't read the literature on this in a few years so I might be wrong, but I also think my point just came across wrong.
Breloof [#16]Of course nicotine is overall a bit more dangerous than caffeine, but they're both legal, so why does Rito draw a line between them, when their performance enhancing effects are very comparable?
Also it's not like I'm saying coffee is as detrimental to health than snus, but redbull definitely is, there are plenty of negative effects on health that come with regular energy drink consumption, yet Riot actively promotes them while Banning snus, which feels a bit weird.
bc why would riot allow the showing off an addictive substance which is frowned upon, not a good look for sponsors and viewers.
TrialRunnr [#17]found the nicotine addict
Smoked tobacco a handful of times while drunk, never liked it while sober, never even tried other forms of nicotine.
TrialRunnr [#2]Caffeine consumption is much more normalized in society and is much safer than nicotine🤷
bhahahaha,energy drinks are safer than nicotine pouches?? They are literally cancer juice with multiple cancer causing ingredients and are extremely unhealthy,the guy who drinks redbull everyday will probably have more health issues than the guy who uses snus,they should not be treated any more lightly than nicotine,idek how they have infiltrated so many industries and how companies advertise them,but fc all the energy drink addicted "gamers" dont wanna hear this haha
Breloof [#21]Smoked tobacco a handful of times while drunk, never liked it while sober, never even tried other forms of nicotine.
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Halleluhwah [#11]correct take
although idk what i would think if they took a snus partnership
I mean, here in India they promote a thing called Vimal Pan Masala everywhere, which is basically tobacco with a hint of spice. So Riot promoting snus is kinda plausible, given that the snus company is super rich and pays them money
Zerphyr1 [#20]bc why would riot allow the showing off an addictive substance which is frowned upon, not a good look for sponsors and viewers.
Yeah I guess it's mostly about public perception. Redbull is fucking awful as well but they promote it anyway. I didn't realise snus was this frowned upon I guess.
Yeetus [#9]one hurts other people while one only “hurts” yourself
I saw someone on the street taking a snus and my dick instantly detached itself from my body, can confirm what ur saying is true
cboomer [#18]theres no arguing if you can't understand nicotine is far more addictive, more dangerous to every part of your body.
Caffeine is literally included in several workout supplements in healthy doses but supposedly nicotine is only a "bit" more dangerous.
nicotine is for losers and bums and you are one if you justify the use of it lol
It's less the fact that nicotine in isolation is comparable to caffeine in isolation, and more the fact that the negative health effects of snus and the negative health effects of redbull (both in regular quantities) are comparable in severity.
asdfgh [#22]bhahahaha,energy drinks are safer than nicotine pouches?? They are literally cancer juice with multiple cancer causing ingredients and are extremely unhealthy,the guy who drinks redbull everyday will probably have more health issues than the guy who uses snus,they should not be treated any more lightly than nicotine,idek how they have infiltrated so many industries and how companies advertise them,but fc all the energy drink addicted "gamers" dont wanna hear this haha
what is worse? a few nicotine pouches or one redbull
Breloof [#28]It's less the fact that nicotine in isolation is comparable to caffeine in isolation, and more the fact that the negative health effects of snus and the negative health effects of redbull (both in regular quantities) are comparable in severity.
this isn't how nicotine functions, if you become addicted to SNUS you become addicted to Nicotine PERIOD which can lead to smoking or other terrible addictions. Which is a terrible thing to promote to children and absolutely unacceptable to have on stage for a kids game.
NneonZz [#29]what is worse? a few nicotine pouches or one redbull
idk,if were taking about daily consumption probably the redbull
asdfgh [#22]bhahahaha,energy drinks are safer than nicotine pouches?? They are literally cancer juice with multiple cancer causing ingredients and are extremely unhealthy,the guy who drinks redbull everyday will probably have more health issues than the guy who uses snus,they should not be treated any more lightly than nicotine,idek how they have infiltrated so many industries and how companies advertise them,but fc all the energy drink addicted "gamers" dont wanna hear this haha
Both are bad for you, but one can of redbull is way less harmful than constant nicotine absorption
Okbrook [#32]Both are bad for you, but one can of redbull is way less harmful than constant nicotine absorption
"1 can of redbull" lets not act like gamers just drink 1 redbull here and there
asdfgh [#33]"1 can of redbull" lets not act like gamers just drink 1 redbull here and there
idk about that, it tastes like medicine anyways, nasty
Okbrook [#34]idk about that, it tastes like medicine anyways, nasty
ok idk about u but why are u comparing 1 red bu to constant nicotine use,what even is ur point
cboomer [#30]this isn't how nicotine functions, if you become addicted to SNUS you become addicted to Nicotine PERIOD which can lead to smoking or other terrible addictions. Which is a terrible thing to promote to children and absolutely unacceptable to have on stage for a kids game.
But riot isn't promoting snus, it was just one guy doing it. Meanwhile they are actually actively promoting redbull, which is also a terrible thing to promote to children.
Breloof [#37]But riot isn't promoting snus, it was just one guy doing it. Meanwhile they are actually actively promoting redbull, which is also a terrible thing to promote to children.
a professional is a representive of riot, so yes they are.
Red Bull literally has an F1 team don't you reckon if people actually had issues with red bull they wouldn't be this marketable? Red Bull isn't gonna ruin your life like nicotine could, this is such a stupid fucking argument lol
Breloof [#19]I don't think caffeine is as severe as nicotine, of course not. I just don't see the justification for banning one while actively promoting the other.
In terms of performance enhancing effects for esports, they're comparable, or are they not?
And in terms of health, clearly nicotine in isolation is much worse than caffeine in isolation. But we're not talking about coffee here, we're talking about energy drinks, which have a variety of negative health impacts that differ from the effects of nicotine, but I would argue are comparable in severity.
I haven't read the literature on this in a few years so I might be wrong, but I also think my point just came across wrong.
I just don't see the justification for banning one while actively promoting the other.
Caffeine is not nearly as addictive as nicotine and has no real health risks. Simple as that.
What negative health impacts are you seeing from energy drinks? The primary energy ingredients of redbull are caffeine and taurine. Caffeine is one of the most extensively studied supplements in the entire world. The risks and benefits have been validated thousands of times in various studies. Taurine has been studied (albeit less than caffeine) and shown to be safe when used in moderation.
I do not doubt that nicotine has performance enhancing effects for esports. That can be true for almost any supplement. But the point it sounds like you're making is that players should be allowed to do anything on stage. which they shouldn't. Adderall is widely used among esports competitors, would you be okay with players using it on stage?
Also, consumption of nicotine isn't banned. Consumption while on stage is. He could have used this between maps, but he chose to do this knowing the rules: https://twitter.com/d00mbr0s/status/1688623687615049728?s=20
adilKhan [#25]I mean, here in India they promote a thing called Vimal Pan Masala everywhere, which is basically tobacco with a hint of spice. So Riot promoting snus is kinda plausible, given that the snus company is super rich and pays them money
anything is possible i suppose
Breloof [#8]They're both CNS stimulants, they both increase heart rate, they are both addictive. Sure, nicotine might be a bit more addictive, but at the end of the day they're quite similar. What would you say is the decisive difference that makes a comparison unreasonable?
"a bit" more addictive is putting it lightly. Nicotine affects the plasticity of the synapses in your brain. It is literally, physically, a much more severe addiction
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