Overhype teams that will fail to deliver. Sentinels will be next don't @ me
That's why you shouldn't be bragging how you dominated EU after reyjovik,, you will reap what you sow
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Netero [#3]oh shit maybe you're right. maybe you guys can get 1 map off them this time?
laugh now cry later
PotatoCh1ps [#7]Ok salty boy we'll see about that
It's just a direct response to huge NA bms that came after reykovik. Don't call me salty lol, don't kick people when their down and get mad when they start fighting back
Sunot [#8]It's just a direct response to huge NA bms that came after reykovik. Don't call me salty lol, don't kick people when their down and get mad when they start fighting back
what are you talking about? TSM is just one of the Tier 2 team in NA. you act like sentinals, envy, 100t, v1 or cloud 9 got taken out by unknown teams. Use some logic please.
For me, the "overhyped teams" are the consequence of the fast growth experienced by the NA scene. Due to this fast growth, the big names of NA like Hiko were given a big credit when the scene was too young. However, the "true" big names aren't people who necessarily were good in the beginning. Devilwalk, for example, won the first major, but, after that, he never achieved very much. This lead to people creates too big of expectations from players that don't have the skills to match this. If you think about the ten teams that qualified to Masters 2, only TL and SEN had their core roster together since last year.
PotatoCh1ps [#11]EU top team got defeated by a newly formed roster. Whereas SEN still dominates the scene
newly formed roster has players from former champs
mailmailmail0731 [#9]what are you talking about? TSM is just one of the Tier 2 team in NA. you act like sentinals, envy, 100t, v1 or cloud 9 got taken out by unknown teams. Use some logic please.
Everyone called it an upset but only you call them tier 2 lol. OK
There's even an article WRITTEN ABOUT IT https://www.vlr.gg/24840/nas-stage-3-starts-heavy-on-the-upsets
ARe you still going to be in denial
100flukes [#13]Amazing logic, TSM sucking = SEN will choke
EG with a roster change almost beat sentinels today lol.
I am just saying how TSM is getting hyped similar to how SEN is getting hyped I see a correlation there. I would be smiling happy when SEN eventually loses to EU but NA will brush it off like nothing happened lol
Sunot [#17]EG with a roster change almost beat sentinels today lol.
I am just saying how TSM is getting hyped similar to how SEN is getting hyped I see a correlation there. I would be smiling happy when SEN eventually loses to EU but NA will brush it off like nothing happened lol
26-16 is almost? and TL 'actually' was beaten up by V1 with a sub with no 'almost there' while Fnatic was 5-0. Malaysians really be watching the game in 144p for them to be this deluded.
even if sentinels fail it doesn't matter they have already qualified fr champions. However TSM was always been a Tier 2 team, they made one change and coach change when their problem was so obviously their IGL ing abilities. Overhyping is essentially is just because of the org's fans or the team's fans u can't really change that. Every team everywhere will have its own fanbase and it will always overwhelmingly hype to see the fanbase cheer for the team. Fanbase > ppl who see all games.
MasKQRadeX [#18]26-16 is almost? and TL 'actually' was beaten up by V1 with a sub with no 'almost there' while Fnatic was 5-0. Malaysians really be watching the game in 144p for them to be this deluded.
first of all it's EG who loses most of their games, second of all they just changed roster, third of all they are against supposedly the best team in the world but still manage to clock in rounds against TSM, they shouldn't get 10 rounds against the best team in the world it just doesn't make sense. Keep crying more SEN supporter. Also I love how Indians are dissing me on this site because I am Malaysian, never said anything about India at all yet I'm being attack for having an opinion which you disagree with. Don't make me go all out against India if you have no balls to defend yourselves
ranker11 [#12]newly formed roster has players from former champs
Yea they ripped key players from 2 good teams to get it going, better deliver some god damn results. Also yoinked the IGL from Acend, but that's actually not so bad for Acend, since they got Zeek from G2 so more of a fair trade.
anothervlruser [#19]even if sentinels fail it doesn't matter they have already qualified fr champions. However TSM was always been a Tier 2 team, they made one change and coach change when their problem was so obviously their IGL ing abilities. Overhyping is essentially is just because of the org's fans or the team's fans u can't really change that. Every team everywhere will have its own fanbase and it will always overwhelmingly hype to see the fanbase cheer for the team. Fanbase > ppl who see all games.
nvm I take that back, another SEN supporter here
Sunot [#20]first of all it's EG who loses most of their games, second of all they just changed roster, third of all they are against supposedly the best team in the world but still manage to clock in rounds against TSM, they shouldn't get 10 rounds against the best team in the world it just doesn't make sense. Keep crying more SEN supporter. Also I love how Indians are dissing me on this site because I am Malaysian, never said anything about India at all yet I'm being attack for having an opinion which you disagree with. Don't make me go all out against India if you have no balls to defend yourselves
stop making x team got rounds against sentinels lol u are talking as if the second-best team does not lose to anyone other than the best team, third best team should not lose to anyone other than the top 2 . fking trash logic man. more than that the game was not even streamed lmao stfu
anothervlruser [#23]stop making x team got rounds against sentinels lol u are talking as if the second-best team does not lose to anyone other than the best team, third best team should not lose to anyone other than the top 2 . fking trash logic man. more than that the game was not even streamed lmao stfu
How is that trash logic? It's EG dude, lost 13-4 and 13-2 to EZ5? Is that also a tier 1 team yet somehow to get 10 rounds against the best team in the world. SEN fans are deluded
Sunot [#24]How is that trash logic? It's EG dude, lost 13-4 and 13-2 to EZ5? Is that also a tier 1 team yet somehow to get 10 rounds against the best team in the world. SEN fans are deluded
ur judging number of rounds without watching the game??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
anothervlruser [#25]ur judging number of rounds without watching the game??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ok SEN Fan
Sunot [#26]ok SEN Fan
can't argue pull the SEN fan arguement ResidentSleeper (Fnatic and 100T fan btw)
anothervlruser [#27]can't argue pull the SEN fan arguement ResidentSleeper (Fnatic and 100T fan btw)
Nothing to argue here, I will say it again, sentinels are overrated and when they lose to EU people like you and other sentinels supporters will just claim it was fluke or hide in the corner claiming SEN was never a tier 1 team to begin with
Sunot [#28]Nothing to argue here, I will say it again, sentinels are overrated and when they lose to EU people like you and other sentinels supporters will just claim it was fluke or hide in the corner claiming SEN was never a tier 1 team to begin with
"SEN was never a tier 1 team to begin with" no. they would say #FreeTenz XD
I disagree. TSM still dont know what the fuck they're doing with their players. Its not really them, its more like the org still hasnt evolved with the game. You grow or you die. That being said, its really unfair to go like NA is going to fall. Also, XSET Zekken pointed out some good things. Just because some Tier 1 teams fell to Tier 2 teams doesnt mean we should ignore the fact that these Tier 2 teams put in the effort to take down these giants.
But yeah going like TSM= NA Scene is really stupid. It just means that there are better teams rising right now
Mkael_J_Kabo0s3 [#30]I disagree. TSM still dont know what the fuck they're doing with their players. Its not really them, its more like the org still hasnt evolved with the game. You grow or you die. That being said, its really unfair to go like NA is going to fall. Also, XSET Zekken pointed out some good things. Just because some Tier 1 teams fell to Tier 2 teams doesnt mean we should ignore the fact that these Tier 2 teams put in the effort to take down these giants.
But yeah going like TSM= NA Scene is really stupid. It just means that there are better teams rising right now
point taken
Sunot [#15]Everyone called it an upset but only you call them tier 2 lol. OK
There's even an article WRITTEN ABOUT IT https://www.vlr.gg/24840/nas-stage-3-starts-heavy-on-the-upsets
ARe you still going to be in denial
once again learn to read and use your logic. I didnt disagree or even mention about "upset". Tier 3 team beat a tier 2 team, yes an upset. read what I said earlier, you act like Sentinals and other tier 1 teams got taken out. Learn to use your logic and read please. TSM is just one of the tier 2 team in NA. it's not = NA scene lol. Of course you wouldnt understand simple logic
ChowChow [#32]Cry now, and cry more later eu fanboys,
I'm not necessarily EU fanboy, I just like to support someone that got kicked when they were down(EU) and the rest of the NA bms that came with it after reyjovik. When EU or other region defeats SEN in Berlin, you and every one of SEN supporter will brush it off like nothing happened lol
mailmailmail0731 [#33]once again learn to read and use your logic. I didnt disagree or even mention about "upset". Tier 3 team beat a tier 2 team, yes an upset. read what I said earlier, you act like Sentinals and other tier 1 teams got taken out. Learn to use your logic and read please. TSM is just one of the tier 2 team in NA. it's not = NA scene lol. Of course you wouldnt understand simple logic
Sure TSM is tier 2. They will be tier 3 tomorrow and next friday tier 5. When SEN loses in EU come back to this thread and cry more please. Excuses2 when you lose berlin
Sunot [#34]I'm not necessarily EU fanboy, I just like to support someone that got kicked when they were down(EU) and the rest of the NA bms that came with it after reyjovik. When EU or other region defeats SEN in Berlin, you and every one of SEN supporter will brush it off like nothing happened lol
"reyjovic"
Baiter detected, you just wanna attention while know nothing.
ChowChow [#37]"reyjovic"
Baiter detected, you just wanna attention while know nothing.
I can't get the name right, doesn't mean I'm baiting. I just want revenge for all the NA bms EU suffered for the past week after the masters. The day will come when sentinel loses, and it is in Berlin. It will show you and everyone on this thread that NA teams are overrated like TSM.
Sunot [#39]I can't get the name right, doesn't mean I'm baiting. I just want revenge for all the NA bms EU suffered for the past week after the masters. The day will come when sentinel loses, and it is in Berlin. It will show you and everyone on this thread that NA teams are overrated like TSM.
Yeah SEN should be defeated, by 100T I love their rivalry and I will never get tired of it
Sunot [#39]I can't get the name right, doesn't mean I'm baiting. I just want revenge for all the NA bms EU suffered for the past week after the masters. The day will come when sentinel loses, and it is in Berlin. It will show you and everyone on this thread that NA teams are overrated like TSM.
Yeah sure that was bait.
Because you get taken over from your emotion from just forum in game.
You get emotional even typing the master 1 place wrong.
You even talk bad about a team and don't think rationally about a team gameplay without actually know the game itself.
One words right for you, a "kid"
Grow up a little mate, and don't take it to heart when people says bad thing about EU.
ChowChow [#41]Yeah sure that was bait.
Because you get taken over from your emotion from just forum in game.
You get emotional even typing the master 1 place wrong.
You even talk bad about a team and don't think rationally about a team gameplay without actually know the game itself.
One words right for you, a "kid"
Grow up a little mate, and don't take it to heart when people says bad thing about EU.
I'm not a kid, I support NA since EG days when lurppis joined them after compLexity and 3D died along with united5, zEx, pandemic etc.
But after watching in Valorant when they are the number one, they(NA fans) just trash EU like they are nothing. I will always respect NA players from that era but never will in Valorant.
I love how your telling me to grow up, I guess when people trash talk you just say quiet and if you say anything back your told to grow up? Also it is nice to be emotional about things, why is being emotional wrong? People not allowed to express themselves anymore?
Sunot [#42]I'm not a kid, I support NA since EG days when lurppis joined them after compLexity and 3D died along with united5, zEx, pandemic etc.
But after watching in Valorant when they are the number one, they(NA fans) just trash EU like they are nothing. I will always respect NA players from that era but never will in Valorant.
I love how your telling me to grow up, I guess when people trash talk you just say quiet and if you say anything back your told to grow up? Also it is nice to be emotional about things, why is being emotional wrong? People not allowed to express themselves anymore?
Lmao, now you say you support EU from EG days.
But before you say "I'm not necessarily EU fanboy, I just like to support someone that got kicked when they go down(EU)"
I should stop talk with you before people think that I'm a bully lol.
ChowChow [#43]Lmao, now you say you support EU from EG days.
But before you say "I'm not necessarily EU fanboy, I just like to support someone that got kicked when they go down(EU)"
I should stop talk with you before people think that I'm a bully lol.
I said I support EG when lurppis joined evil geniuses to lead them along with fRod, nothing, warden, storm and gfn. Because at the time there were 0 NA good teams and this was the only team that can bring the fight to EU.
Sunot [#31]point taken
what? of course sen will lose at some point. i dont think they will win 100% of their games for 5-10 years if the game lasts that long. but what kind of logic is this? they are beating every team and winning everything at the moment . how can a team like that just cause u dont like me make em overrated? they can be anything but overated. TSM was considered one of the best. cause they were actually a consistent finalist. but they became overrated because they cant even qualify for regional. they made to closed once i think in 2021. if you expect them that for a no1 team they should be 13-0 everyone or 13-5 everyone, im sorry but youre delusional or just dont understand the game at that level. even the t2 teams that went out to teams we havent heard of, those teams that we didnt know , they have got vods to study. this aint ranked where everyone just run around with lil to no cordination. at the end of the day, SEN is the first team to qualify for champions regardless of id they play in this berlin masters or not. so if that team is overrated, idk what makes any other team.
Sunot [#35]Sure TSM is tier 2. They will be tier 3 tomorrow and next friday tier 5. When SEN loses in EU come back to this thread and cry more please. Excuses2 when you lose berlin
i mean TSM havent been doing well like a Tier 1 team would in the past few months. I am just speaking facts, they will not be Tier 3 and never be Tier 5. I dont know where is your dry sarcasm is going. Sen could lose or could win, It's a game based on chances. Like I said, you havent been using logic or making sense this whole time. I'm sure you are a below average student in your class. You are probably like a Tier 4 and below student. I am crying for how stupid you are...
TSM i liked u cuzz of the healthy rivalry between u and us but u will be a shit t3 team until u nuke the whole roster ...the 5 u have in ur roster play for show and have too much ego and are not hard working being the highest paid
EG:- DRONE man is in TSM and highly paid and doesn't know 100s of lineups even pug sova mains will know more
WARDELL man has played only JETT for Tsm since beta smh
PotatoCh1ps [#38]Braindead EU logic, If a former top tier of NA loses to a tier 2 team they say NA region will fail but when we see upsets in EU scene they say EU has more depth. Thats why I call them Braindead
damn u got baited hard
NU_Peri [#2]Naw not sentinals, I would say 100T, no hate
I just hope 100t doesnt mess up with the meta game again
NU_Peri [#2]Naw not sentinals, I would say 100T, no hate
They continue to ignore astra so you might be right
Got to love the people who wait on the sidelines for a team to fail, they say they saw it coming when it eventually happens.
SEN has delivered, they won Masters 1, they won Masters 2 without dropping a map. Every team eventually falls off. Saying that a team is gonna drop off in a brand new game whose meta changes constantly isn’t some incredible wisdom. It happened to G2, it happened to TSM, and yeah eventually will happen to SEN. It’s if SEN can bounce back like G2 looks to be doing that means anything (though with a large roster difference).
It sounds like you really took it personal when EU lost in masters 2. The good news, is yes EU has the talent to win and will eventually. So just wait and you will have your time. Until then EU Flash Kekw (It’s a joke)
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