Derke,Scream,cNed VS Tenz,Wardell,Asuna

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impartialaudience

popular dualists of the two regions. who wins this comparison please leave the fandom aside and let's talk

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supernova

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Why WARDELL?

He's not even on top 20 NA

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impartialaudience

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because he is popular and one of the leading players of the forum. na i'm not watching, i started this discussion to learn some

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impartialaudience

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They said a lot that Warellin is an op as good as Cned, but I don't know if it's true.

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wind_vlr

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Wardell is the best awper in the World LOL

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supernova

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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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wind_vlr

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is he not? like I don't even watch TSM like that anymore but when TSM was doing good he was hands down the best awper, I mean whos better him?

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cned shaz

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wind_vlr

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LOL you think shaz is a better awper than wardell?
shaz isnt even the best oper on his team
plus there is way more evidence that wardell is a better oper than shahzam and cned

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number_1_bjor_fan

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cned and shaz both won masters, TSM didn't even make the top 8 in NA (also if u wanna throw in tenz then sure theres 3 people)

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hellaeleganceyeah

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shaz misses less
his ego plays actually works
he won master 1 and 2???
still says wardell is the better awper KEKW

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wind_vlr

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LOL im talking individual skill not team play LOL were not talking abt the teams, if were talking abt wins then were talking about the teams, sen and acend are better than TSM, but Im talking about skill and oping wardell is better than cned and shaz when it comes to oping. and there is so much evidence to prove that

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hellaeleganceyeah

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what evidence? wardell gets punished so much more with rifles for his op peeks. this doesnt happen with shaz even though they are both playing jett while oping. watch any defensive halfs with sentinels on icebox and youll know.

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Who's better awper than shaz in his team?
And did you see what he did with awp on iceland?
I didn't see anyone else bringing that much value out of op

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Lelindre

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hes the best awper these guys are just delusional as always

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xLinksz

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Let me guess. TSM fan?

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Aris

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0-10 bait nt

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Lelindre

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he isnt top 10 but he for sure is top 20

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Striker_Eureka

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bro really.. he is the awper in valorant

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Danzo

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d3ffo spellfull >>>>>> all this noobs

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FireII

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cned>>wardell, tenz>derke, scream>asuna

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Striker_Eureka

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tenz,asuna,wardell>>>>>>>scream,derke,cNed

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I agree with TenZ and derke comparison, but I think Scream and Asuna have very different roles now so we don't know, also TSM might not be playing well but we all know that Wardell's op can work wonders. It's tough to choose between Wardell and cNed but I would favour cNed as of now

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Stratum7

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How is tough to choose between wardell and cned? Do we watch same wardell and cned?

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zparikan

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cned and scream > tenz and asuna > derke > wardell

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GetsystheGr8

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Derke is not better than wardell and wardell is on par with cned... and if u say otherwise u haven't seen him play.

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heavnsent

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What exactly do you base this on? Wardell has simply not faced the level of competition that Derke has over the past six months. And when he has, he and his team have failed to have an impact, whereas Derke's team has become a massive global force in Valorant.

I feel like you're defending Wardell because you're a fan of his, which I understand, but there's no real logic to your claims. You've watched his streams, cool. Go watch Derke's streams, too, because you will see a level of aim and skill that is absolutely as impressive.

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Shail

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cned > Tenz ??? kekw

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GetsystheGr8

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Bro Global esports> everyone

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Shail

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Ahh yes, skrossi > NA, EU

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people disrespecting my boy Penny out here :(

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GetsystheGr8

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Penny isn't good.

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SpermBRUTAL

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gtn>>>

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valulrantefanboy

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If Asuna have better support players, he will be above all. But Steel Hiko and Nitr0 just ''Asuna go kill''

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AceGX

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Nitro frags

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Shail

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Derke underperformed a little in Masters 2. But I feel like he is going to pop off heads next masters. tbh every one is the list are just better, although I gotta say, cNed is little overrated

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realings

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cNed overrated lmao check his stats

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Shail

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RIght strats. Wonder where the strats took Ascend last stage. Oh yeah nowhere. kekw

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Olofboost

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ACEND GOT ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DOUBLE ELIM

Sentinels fanboy doesn't understand that if NA format was the same as ours, your favourite team would finish the VCT run after losing to Andbox lul

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Shail

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OK, thats arguably true. EU qualifiers are difficult than any other region. But if you are actually good you shouldnt face much of a problem qualifying.

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kyLeria_

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literally nothing to add this ..

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hellaeleganceyeah

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he gets punished for his flashy plays in the international stage who wouldve thought

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cruella

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Scream > all

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notAGN

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tenz>scream>cned>rest

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GetsystheGr8

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Tenz is not even close to the best even in NA... I could see Xeppa, Leaf, Wardell, Shahzam all being better jetts than him

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Shail

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If you still think we are arguing that TenZ is the best Jett then grow up. We are talking about game mentality and aim. Every pro player is flexible with agent pool now.

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notAGN

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getsys dear dont make me more disappointed in my country than i already am

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Netero

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2 masters mvps in a row. xeppaa, leaf, and wardell have literally done nothing lol

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Charism

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Also I would like to add that TenZ has been playing Reyna and also Raze and has a better team before him in which he doesn't have to work wonders as he did in C9. Also TenZ has a higher ACS than any player currently. But if you want to know his jett stats then you should know that his stats were better than anyone in first strike even after not being qualified. Since then TenZ's Reyna play has greatly increased because everyone either bans ascent or haven against them so he plays Jett only on 1 map for the entire series. But the other players play very well too

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NotASinner69

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cned=tenz > derke = scream > asuna >>> wardell

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Netero

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this one is reasonable

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Charism

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I also agree with this

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Netero

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tenz scream cned Sick > everyone else

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ahmet

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cned , tenz > all

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Cned>tenz>>Derke>scream>>asuna>Wardell

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irony0507

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i would say cned = tenz cause tenz is in the best form of his life rn

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swaglord69

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more like cned scream derke vs tenz sick victor