popular dualists of the two regions. who wins this comparison please leave the fandom aside and let's talk
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Derke,Scream,cNed VS Tenz,Wardell,Asuna
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supernova [#2]Why WARDELL?
He's not even on top 20 NA
because he is popular and one of the leading players of the forum. na i'm not watching, i started this discussion to learn some
impartialaudience [#6]because he is popular and one of the leading players of the forum. na i'm not watching, i started this discussion to learn some
They said a lot that Warellin is an op as good as Cned, but I don't know if it's true.
supernova [#9]kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
is he not? like I don't even watch TSM like that anymore but when TSM was doing good he was hands down the best awper, I mean whos better him?
wind_vlr [#11]is he not? like I don't even watch TSM like that anymore but when TSM was doing good he was hands down the best awper, I mean whos better him?
cned shaz
zparikan [#5]cned and scream > tenz and asuna > derke > wardell
Derke is not better than wardell and wardell is on par with cned... and if u say otherwise u haven't seen him play.
Shail [#20]Derke underperformed a little in Masters 2. But I feel like he is going to pop off heads next masters. tbh every one is the list are just better, although I gotta say, cNed is little overrated
cNed overrated lmao check his stats
notAGN [#24]tenz>scream>cned>rest
Tenz is not even close to the best even in NA... I could see Xeppa, Leaf, Wardell, Shahzam all being better jetts than him
realings [#25]cNed overrated lmao check his stats
RIght strats. Wonder where the strats took Ascend last stage. Oh yeah nowhere. kekw
number_1_bjor_fan [#13]cned shaz
LOL you think shaz is a better awper than wardell?
shaz isnt even the best oper on his team
plus there is way more evidence that wardell is a better oper than shahzam and cned
GetsystheGr8 [#26]Tenz is not even close to the best even in NA... I could see Xeppa, Leaf, Wardell, Shahzam all being better jetts than him
If you still think we are arguing that TenZ is the best Jett then grow up. We are talking about game mentality and aim. Every pro player is flexible with agent pool now.
Shail [#27]RIght strats. Wonder where the strats took Ascend last stage. Oh yeah nowhere. kekw
ACEND GOT ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DOUBLE ELIM
Sentinels fanboy doesn't understand that if NA format was the same as ours, your favourite team would finish the VCT run after losing to Andbox lul
wind_vlr [#28]LOL you think shaz is a better awper than wardell?
shaz isnt even the best oper on his team
plus there is way more evidence that wardell is a better oper than shahzam and cned
cned and shaz both won masters, TSM didn't even make the top 8 in NA (also if u wanna throw in tenz then sure theres 3 people)
Olofboost [#30]ACEND GOT ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DOUBLE ELIM
Sentinels fanboy doesn't understand that if NA format was the same as ours, your favourite team would finish the VCT run after losing to Andbox lul
OK, thats arguably true. EU qualifiers are difficult than any other region. But if you are actually good you shouldnt face much of a problem qualifying.
Olofboost [#30]ACEND GOT ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DOUBLE ELIM
Sentinels fanboy doesn't understand that if NA format was the same as ours, your favourite team would finish the VCT run after losing to Andbox lul
literally nothing to add this ..
wind_vlr [#28]LOL you think shaz is a better awper than wardell?
shaz isnt even the best oper on his team
plus there is way more evidence that wardell is a better oper than shahzam and cned
shaz misses less
his ego plays actually works
he won master 1 and 2???
still says wardell is the better awper KEKW
Shail [#20]Derke underperformed a little in Masters 2. But I feel like he is going to pop off heads next masters. tbh every one is the list are just better, although I gotta say, cNed is little overrated
he gets punished for his flashy plays in the international stage who wouldve thought
GetsystheGr8 [#14]Derke is not better than wardell and wardell is on par with cned... and if u say otherwise u haven't seen him play.
What exactly do you base this on? Wardell has simply not faced the level of competition that Derke has over the past six months. And when he has, he and his team have failed to have an impact, whereas Derke's team has become a massive global force in Valorant.
I feel like you're defending Wardell because you're a fan of his, which I understand, but there's no real logic to your claims. You've watched his streams, cool. Go watch Derke's streams, too, because you will see a level of aim and skill that is absolutely as impressive.
hellaeleganceyeah [#34]shaz misses less
his ego plays actually works
he won master 1 and 2???
still says wardell is the better awper KEKW
LOL im talking individual skill not team play LOL were not talking abt the teams, if were talking abt wins then were talking about the teams, sen and acend are better than TSM, but Im talking about skill and oping wardell is better than cned and shaz when it comes to oping. and there is so much evidence to prove that
GetsystheGr8 [#26]Tenz is not even close to the best even in NA... I could see Xeppa, Leaf, Wardell, Shahzam all being better jetts than him
getsys dear dont make me more disappointed in my country than i already am
wind_vlr [#11]is he not? like I don't even watch TSM like that anymore but when TSM was doing good he was hands down the best awper, I mean whos better him?
hes the best awper these guys are just delusional as always
wind_vlr [#38]LOL im talking individual skill not team play LOL were not talking abt the teams, if were talking abt wins then were talking about the teams, sen and acend are better than TSM, but Im talking about skill and oping wardell is better than cned and shaz when it comes to oping. and there is so much evidence to prove that
what evidence? wardell gets punished so much more with rifles for his op peeks. this doesnt happen with shaz even though they are both playing jett while oping. watch any defensive halfs with sentinels on icebox and youll know.
GetsystheGr8 [#26]Tenz is not even close to the best even in NA... I could see Xeppa, Leaf, Wardell, Shahzam all being better jetts than him
2 masters mvps in a row. xeppaa, leaf, and wardell have literally done nothing lol
wind_vlr [#28]LOL you think shaz is a better awper than wardell?
shaz isnt even the best oper on his team
plus there is way more evidence that wardell is a better oper than shahzam and cned
Who's better awper than shaz in his team?
And did you see what he did with awp on iceland?
I didn't see anyone else bringing that much value out of op
FireII [#4]cned>>wardell, tenz>derke, scream>asuna
I agree with TenZ and derke comparison, but I think Scream and Asuna have very different roles now so we don't know, also TSM might not be playing well but we all know that Wardell's op can work wonders. It's tough to choose between Wardell and cNed but I would favour cNed as of now
GetsystheGr8 [#26]Tenz is not even close to the best even in NA... I could see Xeppa, Leaf, Wardell, Shahzam all being better jetts than him
Also I would like to add that TenZ has been playing Reyna and also Raze and has a better team before him in which he doesn't have to work wonders as he did in C9. Also TenZ has a higher ACS than any player currently. But if you want to know his jett stats then you should know that his stats were better than anyone in first strike even after not being qualified. Since then TenZ's Reyna play has greatly increased because everyone either bans ascent or haven against them so he plays Jett only on 1 map for the entire series. But the other players play very well too
valulrantefanboy [#19]If Asuna have better support players, he will be above all. But Steel Hiko and Nitr0 just ''Asuna go kill''
Nitro frags
cloud9bluefan [#54]Cned>tenz>>Derke>scream>>asuna>Wardell
i would say cned = tenz cause tenz is in the best form of his life rn
Charism [#50]I agree with TenZ and derke comparison, but I think Scream and Asuna have very different roles now so we don't know, also TSM might not be playing well but we all know that Wardell's op can work wonders. It's tough to choose between Wardell and cNed but I would favour cNed as of now
How is tough to choose between wardell and cned? Do we watch same wardell and cned?
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