Fns is the most overrated igl in the world(allat)

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shizuku_hajime

If I am to go by vlr users logics then fns is the most overrated igl out of any esports ever as the only trophy he won was Reykjavik where not only was fpx the top emea team not at the event as well as fnatic having to play with a sub while their best player had vivid and couldn’t play but fns only able to win because he had

By far the best player in the world as he was the best player at possibly the most broken agent valorant has ever had
He had 1 of the top 3 controllers in the world
He had a duo which many would consider the best duo jj valorant history at the moment who also happened to be a top 3 initiator in the world and a fop 3 flex in the world
But he was only able to win 1 trophy despite that and according to vlr he is also the best igl so why was he able to win only 1 trophy with that team
If I am using the logic a lot of vlr users use to judge boaster then he is an overrated igl who can only do well because he has a super team without a super team he is only able to reach top 4 in a tournament and even lose to a team with a sub so by your logic fns is overrated and is not the best igl in the world and he’s not even a top 3 igl by your stupid logic

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Fns also won champions, lock in, and vct americas but you're not ready for that convo yet

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What world do u live in

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Allat but boaster>>>sadhaak>fns

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Botssi clears

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talk your shit king

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except fns took a team of fairly mediocre players (crashies, victor, marved) and yay then placed second in their first lan then had an amazing 2022, meanwhile boaster took the proven and known best players in the entirety of emea then won

I do think boaster is a solid igl but I don't place him on the level of saadhak and fns. stats and all that aside when you watch nrg/loud you can clearly notice that they have a good read on the enemy team while when you watch fnatic it's mostly "alfajer gets 3" "leo gets 3" "derke gets 3" "chronicle gets 3" and you know this is true

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those are 1 out of 4 rounds whereas the rest is just boasters pre set strats and reads getting them into unlosable situations

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holy shit just watch any FNC breakdown on yt lil bro, raw aim isnt enough to beat the best T1 teams itw, you're just delusional

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why would you publicly admit to being delusional like this. if you don't see that fnatic generally have a great read on the enemy team you are straight up closing your eyes and ears and going lalalala during their games.

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also if chronicle was in another team no one would be calling him best in the world just like people arent calling sheydos that rn. if fnatic took cloud people would be calling him 'best in his role' instead of chronicle. its so pathetic really

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people when they realize that for the players to get kills the igl has to set them up and that if they all ran it down they would not get the same amount of kills

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sovereign guides, teets, understand valorant, platoon

there are 100s of youtube videos, try watching them with your eyes and ears open, you might realize

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HOW ARE CRASHIES AND MARVED FAIRLY MEDIOCRE???

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The other time I saw a hate thread on Boaster, and OP said that he was being carried by his teammates. Same thing here.
Do y'all vlr analysts even realise that FNS and Boaster made their players what they are today? You think IGLs are just some kinda bots that steal paychecks?
Alright, if you're that dumb, I'll give you a few examples. Guild had top tier players like Sayf, Leo and trexx. But why didn't they perform well internationally? In fact, they had only made ONE international event, with that kinda player quality. It's because they didn't have a good IGL (when your team is being IGLed by Koldamenta, might as well leave by yourself).

If that's not convincing, let's take your excuse as an example. You said that FNS was carried by yay. Alright, but who was setting up yay for success? Who MADE yay the player we know and love? You know the answer, it was FNS. Even though yay went and played tier 2 Valorant he still struggled big time, why? Because he wasn't being set up like how FNS and the OpTic core did.

Before you say shit like "Allat" and all, just remember, IGLs are one of the most difficult and important roles in any shooter, and without them, all your favourite players wouldn't be where they are today.

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i read allat and i agree 🗿

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also dephh with sentinels. bro got the most fearsome team in pancada tenz sacy and zekken and bro could do fuck all

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Exactly what I'm saying. These vlr analysts are literal no life keyboard warriors hating on actual good players for no reason

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those players werent world class when he first signed them. s0m is the most recent proof of that. the reason why fns is such a respected igl is because he is able to take players that were fairly decent to begin with and mold them into some of the best talents in the scene. sure, you could say the same about boaster in respect to derke and alfajer, but even then, he struggled to win until he signed the talents of chronicle and leo, two already proven star players. the big difference in my pov is that fns was able to win with a roster that was never recognized to be a “superteam” until he turned them into one. on optic, yay suddenly became the most disciplined chamber itw. marved went from a flex igl player on faze to what most considered a top 3 controller last year. vic and crashies improved drastically from their T1 days, becoming one of the greatest duos weve seen in valorant. each player individually stepped up, hut you have to acknowledge that fns played a huge role in that. fns’ accomplishments with the rosters he had were much more impressive than boaster’s which is why he is rated much more highly.

at the end of the day, none of this matters because both fns and boaster are extremely talented and have had some insane accomplishments. we will never know who is truly the better igl but it’s definitely fair to say that they are both top 3 itw.

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Its not only reykjavik, FNS has been been consistently great across multiple iterations of rosters across a long period of tine.

This is why he is better than Boaster, who only started finding success with this version of FNATIC

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"FNS has been been consistently great across multiple iterations of rosters across a long period of tine."
And Boaster hasnt???

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I feel like FNATIC were only really good this year

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i feel like you're wrong and that you also upvote your own posts

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nah he's right, Fnatic has been overrated garbage since 2021

and I upvoted him

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whatever helps you sleep at night budday

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I didn’t upvote my post

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2nd iceland, 5-8th champs, 4th copenhagen, 5-6th champs, 1st , 1st

stop with your braindead viewing

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Old FNATIC always choked on LAN and underperformed is what I’m trying to say

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I feel like FNATIC were only really good this year

you werent??????!

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fns comes 5-8th and 4th, omg what a consistent igl
boaster comes 5-6th and 4th with a weaker team, omg trash igl, needed superteam to win.

stfu you stupid asuna braindead fan

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Another day another Boaster thread. Wtf are these people doing in real life?

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I need NA to have games again asap

Right now the whole website is just text wall boaster glazing

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Agreed. Even Cgrs clears him 🗿

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only IGL that isnt carried by his teammates is Boostio

Saadhak CAN carry but he needs to get his life in order

if FNS is gragging is because the rest of the team is dead and not paying properly, unfortunately he doesnt have enough firepower to hardcarry his team.

put Boaster in any other team and he aint winning shit, mf does not have the fragging capabilities nor the leash skills to be the pillar of the team

If Leviathan get their shit together and stop listening to Onurs horrible ass cooking of " not believing in anti-stratting "

PRX doesnt think, and they dont need to if they have something

Haodong is GOATED, he is always pérforming, mf is CLEAN

overall the most self sufficient are Boostio and Haodong

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Fns is the most overrated igl in the world(allat)
posted in General Discussion
If I am to go by vlr users logics then fns is the most overrated igl out of any esports ever as the only trophy he won was Reykjavik where not only was fpx the top emea team not at the event as well as fnatic having to play with a sub while their best player had vivid and couldn’t play but fns only able to win because he had

By far the best player in the world as he was the best player at possibly the most broken agent valorant has ever had
He had 1 of the top 3 controllers in the world
He had a duo which many would consider the best duo jj valorant history at the moment who also happened to be a top 3 initiator in the world and a fop 3 flex in the world
But he was only able to win 1 trophy despite that and according to vlr he is also the best igl so why was he able to win only 1 trophy with that team
If I am using the logic a lot of vlr users use to judge boaster then he is an overrated igl who can only do well because he has a super team without a super team he is only able to reach top 4 in a tournament and even lose to a team with a sub so by your logic fns is overrated and is not the best igl in the world and he’s not even a top 3 igl by your stupid logic
posted 2 hours ago
🐕🐕🐕🐕🐕🐕🐕🦮🦮

posted 2 hours ago
Fns also won champions, lock in, and vct americas but you're not ready for that convo yet

posted 2 hours ago
Allat but boaster>>>sadhaak>fns

posted 2 hours ago
Botssi clears

posted 2 hours ago
talk your shit king

posted 2 hours ago
except fns took a team of fairly mediocre players (crashies, victor, marved) and yay then placed second in their first lan then had an amazing 2022, meanwhile boaster took the proven and known best players in the entirety of emea then won

I do think boaster is a solid igl but I don't place him on the level of saadhak and fns. stats and all that aside when you watch nrg/loud you can clearly notice that they have a good read on the enemy team while when you watch fnatic it's mostly "alfajer gets 3" "leo gets 3" "derke gets 3" "chronicle gets 3" and you know this is true

posted 2 hours ago
those are 1 out of 4 rounds whereas the rest is just boasters pre set strats and reads getting them into unlosable situations

posted 2 hours ago
holy shit just watch any FNC breakdown on yt lil bro, raw aim isnt enough to beat the best T1 teams itw, you're just delusional

posted 2 hours ago
why would you publicly admit to being delusional like this. if you don't see that fnatic generally have a great read on the enemy team you are straight up closing your eyes and ears and going lalalala during their games.

posted 2 hours ago
also if chronicle was in another team no one would be calling him best in the world just like people arent calling sheydos that rn. if fnatic took cloud people would be calling him 'best in his role' instead of chronicle. its so pathetic really

posted 2 hours ago
people when they realize that for the players to get kills the igl has to set them up and that if they all ran it down they would not get the same amount of kills

posted 1 hour ago
sovereign guides, teets, understand valorant, platoon

there are 100s of youtube videos, try watching them with your eyes and ears open, you might realize

posted 1 hour ago
The other time I saw a hate thread on Boaster, and OP said that he was being carried by his teammates. Same thing here.
Do y'all vlr analysts even realise that FNS and Boaster made their players what they are today? You think IGLs are just some kinda bots that steal paychecks?
Alright, if you're that dumb, I'll give you a few examples. Guild had top tier players like Sayf, Leo and trexx. But why didn't they perform well internationally? In fact, they had only made ONE international event, with that kinda player quality. It's because they didn't have a good IGL (when your team is being IGLed by Koldamenta, might as well leave by yourself).

If that's not convincing, let's take your excuse as an example. You said that FNS was carried by yay. Alright, but who was setting up yay for success? Who MADE yay the player we know and love? You know the answer, it was FNS. Even though yay went and played tier 2 Valorant he still struggled big time, why? Because he wasn't being set up like how FNS and the OpTic core did.

Before you say shit like "Allat" and all, just remember, IGLs are one of the most difficult and important roles in any shooter, and without them, all your favourite players wouldn't be where they are today.

posted 2 hours ago
i read allat and i agree 🗿

posted 2 hours ago
also dephh with sentinels. bro got the most fearsome team in pancada tenz sacy and zekken and bro could do fuck all

posted 1 hour ago
Exactly what I'm saying. These vlr analysts are literal no life keyboard warriors hating on actual good players for no reason

posted 50 minutes ago
those players werent world class when he first signed them. s0m is the most recent proof of that. the reason why fns is such a respected igl is because he is able to take players that were fairly decent to begin with and mold them into some of the best talents in the scene. sure, you could say the same about boaster in respect to derke and alfajer, but even then, he struggled to win until he signed the talents of chronicle and leo, two already proven star players. the big difference in my pov is that fns was able to win with a roster that was never recognized to be a “superteam” until he turned them into one. on optic, yay suddenly became the most disciplined chamber itw. marved went from a flex igl player on faze to what most considered a top 3 controller last year. vic and crashies improved drastically from their T1 days, becoming one of the greatest duos weve seen in valorant. each player individually stepped up, hut you have to acknowledge that fns played a huge role in that. fns’ accomplishments with the rosters he had were much more impressive than boaster’s which is why he is rated much more highly.

at the end of the day, none of this matters because both fns and boaster are extremely talented and have had some insane accomplishments. we will never know who is truly the better igl but it’s definitely fair to say that they are both top 3 itw.

posted 2 hours ago
Its not only reykjavik, FNS has been been consistently great across multiple iterations of rosters across a long period of tine.

This is why he is better than Boaster, who only started finding success with this version of FNATIC

posted 2 hours ago
"FNS has been been consistently great across multiple iterations of rosters across a long period of tine."
And Boaster hasnt???

posted 2 hours ago
I feel like FNATIC were only really good this year

posted 1 hour ago
i feel like you're wrong and that you also upvote your own posts

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nah he's right, Fnatic has been overrated garbage since 2021

and I upvoted him

posted 1 hour ago
whatever helps you sleep at night budday

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I didn’t upvote my post

posted 1 hour ago
2nd iceland, 5-8th champs, 4th copenhagen, 5-6th champs, 1st , 1st

stop with your braindead viewing

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fns comes 5-8th and 4th, omg what a consistent igl
boaster comes 5-6th and 4th with a weaker team, omg trash igl, needed superteam to win.

stfu you stupid asuna braindead fan

posted 1 hour ago
Another day another Boaster thread. Wtf are these people doing in real life?

posted 1 hour ago
I need NA to have games again asap

Right now the whole website is just text wall boaster glazing

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Agreed. Even Cgrs clears him 🗿

posted 1 hour ago
only IGL that isnt carried by his teammates is Boostio

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guess what, that best player itw, without fns ,didn't win a single game in T2

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Go back to your kennel EU 🐕🐕🐕🐕. B0tster needed a superteam to finally win a title. FNS didnt abandon his long time team mates to pursue a title. #Justice4Mistic