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SAW, Apeks and EU tier 2

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Yessirskiiii

SAW and Apeks have the kings seal of approval, both of their rosters are going far even if they lose. Everybody been shitting on EU tier 2 and praising Americas tier 2 to heavens, meanwhile in reality EU tier 2 is better. The Guard are the only good team meanwhile EU tier 2 has 3-4 tier 1 ready teams

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Your mom

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Domination
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Oh no he is back🗿

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Ailed
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😡😡😡

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Asuna_Yuuki
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m80 is good too trust

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cboomer
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if apeks win it proves emea t2 is ass if saw and m8 stomp it means emea t2 has fresh blood

EG is a team of 5 players that were t2 or worse last year (not internationally competing) and they made the finals so it's fair to say until proven otherwise Americas > APAC > EMEA in terms of T2

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dapada
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True
EU tier 2 would clear half of Americas League (excluding LOUD NRG EG and probably C9)

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Yessirskiiii, back in time for navi to go 0-2 at LCQ i see

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cboomer [#6]

if apeks win it proves emea t2 is ass if saw and m8 stomp it means emea t2 has fresh blood

EG is a team of 5 players that were t2 or worse last year (not internationally competing) and they made the finals so it's fair to say until proven otherwise Americas > APAC > EMEA in terms of T2

APAC tier 2 being better than EU tier 2 is a dogshit take

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Yessirskiiii [#9]

APAC tier 2 being better than EU tier 2 is a dogshit take

I actually agree with you for once. Or I could be contracting brain worms who knows.

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Yessirskiiii [#9]

APAC tier 2 being better than EU tier 2 is a dogshit take

the best EMEA T2 has had to offer until now is the latest FUT roster there has been no success like C9 and EG. in APAC players that failed in t1 don't have as much success as they do in T2 EMEA. If EMEA had a good T2 scene teams wouldn't be recycling the same players for 3 years. All the top teams are literally from the Liquid FPX Gambit Guild Fnatic cores.

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cboomer [#11]

the best EMEA T2 has had to offer until now is the latest FUT roster there has been no success like C9 and EG. in APAC players that failed in t1 don't have as much success as they do in T2 EMEA. If EMEA had a good T2 scene teams wouldn't be recycling the same players for 3 years. All the top teams are literally from the Liquid FPX Gambit Guild Fnatic cores.

Waffling. C9 and EG were franchised rosters they are not tier 2 currently either. Just because dumb teams like TH and KC exist doesn't mean there isn't alot of talent in tier 2. For example M8, Acend, Apeks and SAW. Also if you had even the slightest idea how stacked the Turkish tier 2 is with talent, you wouldn't be saying this. Keep waffling nonsense tho lil bro

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bleed + the guard no real competetion

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cboomer
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Yessirskiiii [#12]

Waffling. C9 and EG were franchised rosters they are not tier 2 currently either. Just because dumb teams like TH and KC exist doesn't mean there isn't alot of talent in tier 2. For example M8, Acend, Apeks and SAW. Also if you had even the slightest idea how stacked the Turkish tier 2 is with talent, you wouldn't be saying this. Keep waffling nonsense tho lil bro

I said FUT is the best thing to come out of T2, they are really good, I agree but EG is way better. Jakee Runi C0M Demon1 Boostio Jawg Ethan were all T2 last year.

I agree that EMEA could have potential but my point was if washed up old players can dominate in EMEA t2 (fnatic cast outs) how could they really compete when players that were T2 in NA went to an international finals. It's about the potential of the T2 scene in EMEA if old players are holding it up. If SAW or M8 dominate I could see EMEA potentially being a better T2 scene but from what has already happened in T1 APAC and NA have proven their T2 talent is better. No debate.

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if your tier 2 is that good why your tier 1 has the most frauds???????

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Art1st
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koromast [#15]

if your tier 2 is that good why your tier 1 has the most frauds???????

bros region is a pity spot in americas 😭

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mrGoudas
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Art1st [#16]

bros region is a pity spot in americas 😭

Aut1st 🗿

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mrGoudas [#17]

Aut1st 🗿

Goudass 🗿

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koromast
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Art1st [#16]

bros region is a pity spot in americas 😭

ah nah im not getting my region mocked by the only bad russian player on all of emea

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koromast [#19]

ah nah im not getting my region mocked by the only bad russian player on all of emea

Please don't speak to Chronicle's father like that.

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Manaphy [#20]

Please don't speak to Chronicle's father like that.

oh i forgot, change bad to used to be good

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Art1st
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koromast [#19]

ah nah im not getting my region mocked by the only bad russian player on all of emea

i would have literally 13-0ed every team in your region when i played 🥱

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Yessirskiiii
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Art1st [#22]

i would have literally 13-0ed every team in your region when i played 🥱

You're not me lil bro pipe down

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cboomer [#14]

I said FUT is the best thing to come out of T2, they are really good, I agree but EG is way better. Jakee Runi C0M Demon1 Boostio Jawg Ethan were all T2 last year.

I agree that EMEA could have potential but my point was if washed up old players can dominate in EMEA t2 (fnatic cast outs) how could they really compete when players that were T2 in NA went to an international finals. It's about the potential of the T2 scene in EMEA if old players are holding it up. If SAW or M8 dominate I could see EMEA potentially being a better T2 scene but from what has already happened in T1 APAC and NA have proven their T2 talent is better. No debate.

I don't think he gets it. You're wasting your time.

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That's simply not true lol.

Americas had 4 great teams in T2 (guard, m80, union and mxm), and two good ones (9z and oxg).

Apeks is probably TGRD level, but the rest is a step behind. Still Europe have great teams in M8, saw, acend, dath, FF, but I don't think they are better than any of the 4 best teams in T2 americas

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yungbasel [#24]

I don't think he gets it. You're wasting your time.

No he's the one not getting it (lol?). He's talking about NA tier 2 players from a year ago when we are talking about current tier 2 scene. Low IQ to low IQ convo between u two

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Yessirskiiii [#23]

You're not me lil bro pipe down

yeah i own you.. why would i be you 🐶

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Yessirskiiii
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Art1st [#27]

yeah i own you.. why would i be you 🐶

🗣🧇

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yoboikingkong
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yea there's a reason chet complains about lack of good practice in NA while fnatic scrims random tier 3 turkish teams and play well

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The_Cleg [#25]

That's simply not true lol.

Americas had 4 great teams in T2 (guard, m80, union and mxm), and two good ones (9z and oxg).

Apeks is probably TGRD level, but the rest is a step behind. Still Europe have great teams in M8, saw, acend, dath, FF, but I don't think they are better than any of the 4 best teams in T2 americas

whocars owns m80 and everyone else, forget saying acend or apeks

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Yessirskiiii [#28]

🗣🧇

just texted suygetsu shao and ange1 your vlr profile, you’re welcome, your biggest accomplishment in valorant thanks to me <3, they’ll probably die laughing at your takes just like i do

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babysasuke
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Art1st [#31]

just texted suygetsu shao and ange1 your vlr profile, you’re welcome, your biggest accomplishment in valorant thanks to me <3, they’ll probably die laughing at your takes just like i do

cook him 🔥
owned that fraud 🥱

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yes, I agree that EMEA t2 is better than Americas t2
TL > The Guard
NAVI = m80
FUT > The Union

We can go on, but I think you get the idea

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babysasuke [#32]

cook him 🔥
owned that fraud 🥱

no i like him and it was all a bait for you to comment in the long run, every single comment of this thread was carefully crafted in hopes of this response.

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babysasuke
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Art1st [#34]

no i like him and it was all a bait for you to comment in the long run, every single comment of this thread was carefully crafted in hopes of this response.

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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yungbasel
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Yessirskiiii [#26]

No he's the one not getting it (lol?). He's talking about NA tier 2 players from a year ago when we are talking about current tier 2 scene. Low IQ to low IQ convo between u two

This reply 100% tells us you don't get it. Re read 200 times or move on. Literally no hope for you.

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yoboikingkong [#29]

yea there's a reason chet complains about lack of good practice in NA while fnatic scrims random tier 3 turkish teams and play well

Attitude to practice doesn't indicate how good the team is. Just how productive they are in scrims.

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Cat4clysma [#33]

yes, I agree that EMEA t2 is better than Americas t2
TL > The Guard
NAVI = m80
FUT > The Union

We can go on, but I think you get the idea

FURIA flair, wp bronzil

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cboomer
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cboomer [#6]

if apeks win it proves emea t2 is ass if saw and m8 stomp it means emea t2 has fresh blood

EG is a team of 5 players that were t2 or worse last year (not internationally competing) and they made the finals so it's fair to say until proven otherwise Americas > APAC > EMEA in terms of T2

EMEA T2 HAS FRESH BLOOD

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