Wasn't optic last year for na similar to fnatic this year? Guard lost both matches. Xset lost both matches. I didn't see any of you posting about being 1team and all that?
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i literally said xset was the first good 2nd seed from NA since berlin because they first played horribly in copenhagen,in champs xset did well,but fpx still ranked higher so apart from optic how did NA teams play better,tbh fpx should have got top 3 in champs too but they somehow choked 11-8 and 9-3 leads against drx
Not if we're trying to collectively rate how good a region is as a whole it's not. A region has more than just one team and NA is just a deeper region than EMEA. Like fair enough an EMEA team won but the other 3 teams really didn't get close at all., whereas both NA teams were decently close despite having to play more games.
yeah emea teams underperformed this event,but emea still has the strongest team in the world,but that doesnt mean anything or set any trend lol,its just 1 event,NA was the biggest 1 team region for like 3 events in a row before champs where xset managed to do a decent run, the ultimate measurement of a regions success is still trophies,sure NA performed way better as a region this event but it really doesnt mean anything in the grand scheme,there will be tourneys where NA is weaker and eu stronger too,but it doesnt matter if the other region still has a better team overall
if you can only place 2,3 or 4 you cant be the best region,the best region is the region with the best team,regions can perform weaker or stronger than each other every tourney,but they are all trying to win the tourney,if we went by top4 placements in 2022 eu would still top NA in that,but because NA had optic they were considered the better region in 2022
its only flawed because you cant use common sense, with how apac has performed even winning champions wouldn't make them the best region in the world lol,its between eu and Americas only apac is miles behind already,its pretty clear that apac is by far the weakest region so there isnt any logical narrative to support that they can stay at that level unlike eu and americas performances,if you wanna talk about the best region overall you gotta talk about all the events not just cherry pick the one where you did better
That proves my point though, because you have to factor in the other teams to make that case. If you're just going off of the region that wins is the best, it's always going to be judging a region off of one team, and thus actual one-team regions like MY/SG becomes the best region just by winning. You're the one who can't use common sense lmao.
yeah and if you factor in all the teams emea is still the strongest im pretty sure,you dont know how emea will perform in champs so its a useless statement saying "NA is a way deeper region" based on 1 event,if we look at trophy wins and how teams overall rank in lans EMEA is still better, if you wanna say that NA is a deeper region based on this Tokyo tournament sure, but overall it is not,im talking about regions overall not just based on 2023 and now emea has produced 2 super teams in gambit and fnatic and 2 less dominant winners in acend and fpx,so idk how u can argue that overall NA is a deeper region when you have only had 3 teams in finals overall and 2 contenders/winners with sen being kinda irrelevant
It's unfair to compare it to the past when EMEA got an extra spot at every event, and Optic took on The Guard and XSET round 1 of both tourneys before going to top 3.
And I'd like to clarify, I don't really think EMEA is a "One Team Region" I just think that - since the beginning - that they were the region with the least depth. The only surprises from the region was Navi and Koi underperforming since I expected fut to be top 4 from LOCK//IN. In Pacific, a ton of their lower teams like GE, Talon, and RRQ have shown great performances at random times, like any could shape into a threat. AM had C9 and EG going insane, and Furia showing a ton of promise.
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