How will these teams do after after roster changes and what are the expectations?
Ascend are looking pretty good. I think they can go all the way to Berlin. G2 is good on paper but I don't think they can go to Berlin. I don't know about the new players of Heretics much so I don't have high expectations from them, maybe they can make the playoffs max. But Heretics can surprise me like the first strike u never know.
G2 with the addition of keloqz will have HUGE firepower, but I don't know about the team chemistry. If they can adapt well , they would even go to Berlin imo.
Acend is also stronger from the firepower point of view and ppl have high expectations for them , I hope it will not make much pressure on them.
Even though TH is not stronger than the older version of this team on paper, they really have some talented players who can shine in playoffs like Monster and al0rante.
We will see how all the teams perform , EU qualifiers will be banger for sure
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#10]Acend should not be in this discussion, they only swapped 1 player. OG should be in place of Acend. I feel like people forgot that OG made a new roster too.
Do you expect anything good about OG?? Really?? Tier 2 roster
Acend could be top 1 if fnatic dont play at their 100% cause fnatic doesn't have the firepower to go face to face with acend
G2 should be better over all cause they have added more regular players, avova has improved alot his firepower and nukky is regular as always with good calling they should do better than last masters and be more regular than before.
TH project is way different than those two cause they have added two unknown players in monster and alorante, they def have better firepower than before, monster patti ardiis have more raw skill mechanics than paura rubino and avova, but we all know patti and ardiis slacked in G2 even tho they can be top players if they grind. but its def a downgrade in moster and alorante, yea they might have great mechanic skill but paura and nukkye gamesense is way better cause it gives alot of value to the team.
Mi main worry about TH is that lowel might need to igl alot more to control the team what can effect his performance, in the other hand having great firepower they could play a more agresive style what could work but in the long run will give u way more irregular games.
Adruvi17 [#11]Do you expect anything good about OG?? Really?? Tier 2 roster
who the fuck said they will be good.. he just asked for expectations? also they all made huge changes.. furthermore G2 just came from a loss to team finest
Uri [#12]Acend could be top 1 if fnatic dont play at their 100% cause fnatic doesn't have the firepower to go face to face with acend
G2 should be better over all cause they have added more regular players, avova has improved alot his firepower and nukky is regular as always with good calling they should do better than last masters and be more regular than before.TH project is way different than those two cause they have added two unknown players in monster and alorante, they def have better firepower than before, monster patti ardiis have more raw skill mechanics than paura rubino and avova, but we all know patti and ardiis slacked in G2 even tho they can be top players if they grind. but its def a downgrade in moster and alorante, yea they might have great mechanic skill but paura and nukkye gamesense is way better cause it gives alot of value to the team.
Mi main worry about TH is that lowel might need to igl alot more to control the team what can effect his performance, in the other hand having great firepower they could play a more agresive style what could work but in the long run will give u way more irregular games.
bad take, fnatic has insane firepower with derke, doma, and magnum. ur braindead if u think fnatic doesnt have good firepower lmfao.
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#14]who the fuck said they will be good.. he just asked for expectations? also they all made huge changes.. furthermore G2 just came from a loss to team finest
fnatic just came from a 5-0 loss to Sentinels...but yeah, your OG expectations are too good for this team
Adruvi17 [#17]fnatic just came from a 5-0 loss to Sentinels...but yeah, your OG expectations are too good for this team
I gave 0 expectations, you are projecting. All I'm saying is, that Acend should not be in this discussion, because they did not radically change their roster and are performing well recently.
As opposed to OG, it depends on their scrims. Also what is this comparison? Fnatic lost to the best team? What's the point of saying that.
clownhunter [#15]bad take, fnatic has insane firepower with derke, doma, and magnum. ur braindead if u think fnatic doesnt have good firepower lmfao.
i think acend CAN eat them though, they beat em before and with kolda bottom fragging
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#18]I gave 0 expectations, you are projecting. All I'm saying is, that Acend should not be in this discussion, because they did not radically change their roster and are performing well recently.
As opposed to OG, it depends on their scrims. Also what is this comparison? Fnatic lost to the best team? What's the point of saying that.
In these thread, we speak about tier1 teams, OG is tier2. Acend changed his IGL. And yeah, Fnatic did not represent well to EU. That 5-0 was humbling...
I hope Fnatic will not qualify to do that shitshow...
Adruvi17 [#20]In these thread, we speak about tier1 teams, OG is tier2. Acend changed his IGL. And yeah, Fnatic did not represent well to EU. That 5-0 was humbling...
I hope Fnatic will not qualify to do that shitshow...
You watched the game or you were simply spamming? All 5 maps ended with 3 rounds like the least closet was 13-10. 2 maps were 13-11, and two went into OT. Do your research before you give braindead takes.
1RustedSilver [#21]You watched the game or you were simply spamming? All 5 maps ended with 3 rounds like the least closet was 13-10. 2 maps were 13-11, and two went into OT. Do your research before you give braindead takes.
13-10 13-11 13-11 and 2 OTs = 5-0 i learned a lot of maths. Bo9, Fnatic lost 5-0 and you are speaking about the "balanced" match. You are a big joke :))
Adruvi17 [#22]13-10 13-11 13-11 and 2 OTs = 5-0 i learned a lot of maths. Bo9, Fnatic lost 5-0 and you are speaking about the "balanced" match. You are a big joke :))
Oh really? then who is better than fnatic in EU? Who would "represent EU better?" G2? Lmfao
Adruvi17 [#17]fnatic just came from a 5-0 loss to Sentinels...but yeah, your OG expectations are too good for this team
lol no way u just compared sentinels to team finest
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clownhunter [#15]bad take, fnatic has insane firepower with derke, doma, and magnum. ur braindead if u think fnatic doesnt have good firepower lmfao.
he said in comparison to ascend
zparikan [#19]i think acend CAN eat them though, they beat em before and with kolda bottom fragging
yeah no, not likely with how good fnatic's been. acend couldnt even make it to the playoffs, lol. ur overrating them despite the fact they've accomplished nothing since masters 1
LouBag [#29]EU is gonna be nuts and I wouldn’t be surprised if both Liquid and FNC don’t qualify.
That's what makes EU so fkin sick to watch. You have no clue what's gonna happen
Adruvi17 [#20]In these thread, we speak about tier1 teams, OG is tier2. Acend changed his IGL. And yeah, Fnatic did not represent well to EU. That 5-0 was humbling...
I hope Fnatic will not qualify to do that shitshow...
They are new rosters. The point never was to say, that the teams mentioned in this thread should be equivalent. The point was, that if you are going to have a discussion about expectations, it should be about teams, that radically changed and don't have many results.
These teams include OG, G2, Heretics. I don't understand why Acend should be in the same discussion, when they have only changed 1 player and we have many games on them and they are still good.
That's as simple as I can say it. I never said anything about these teams being equal, you just assumed I implied it when I didn't.
Uri [#12]Acend could be top 1 if fnatic dont play at their 100% cause fnatic doesn't have the firepower to go face to face with acend
G2 should be better over all cause they have added more regular players, avova has improved alot his firepower and nukky is regular as always with good calling they should do better than last masters and be more regular than before.TH project is way different than those two cause they have added two unknown players in monster and alorante, they def have better firepower than before, monster patti ardiis have more raw skill mechanics than paura rubino and avova, but we all know patti and ardiis slacked in G2 even tho they can be top players if they grind. but its def a downgrade in moster and alorante, yea they might have great mechanic skill but paura and nukkye gamesense is way better cause it gives alot of value to the team.
Mi main worry about TH is that lowel might need to igl alot more to control the team what can effect his performance, in the other hand having great firepower they could play a more agresive style what could work but in the long run will give u way more irregular games.
alorante and monster aren't unknown players lmao, ardiis was G2's star player for 2020 and even the start of 2021 yeah in the past 3 matches he wasn't the best player but that dsoesnt mean that you should completely disregard him