If you look at the stats for avg ACS across all series, and sort from lowest to highest
tuyz is the 3rd lowest ranked player... lower than Txoziun who ONLY PLAYED TWO SERIES
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(i agree tuyz is smart asf but this is still funny as hell that even Txoziun did better than him)
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K1ru4 [#5]brain damage
Why?
This is actually a useful stat unlike highest kills in a map
My man is below FNS in acs
cioccolat [#6]Damn you really mad huh?
HOLY SHIT, i know this is not an accurate measurement of how good of a player he is, im saying its funny that one of the top rated controller couldnt outfrag an assistant coach
this is not an argument, is a comment for shits and giggles.
Asuna_Yuuki [#9]Why?
This is actually a useful stat unlike highest kills in a map
My man is below FNS in acs
you must be kidding coz tuyz has the highest KAST of americas 💀
Asuna_Yuuki [#9]Why?
This is actually a useful stat unlike highest kills in a map
My man is below FNS in acs
easier to do damge on agents like viper and kj tuyz plays mostly harbor and omen the agents that has no abilities to kill or damage anybody
pugboy [#13]easier to do damge on agents like viper and kj tuyz plays mostly harbor and omen the agents that has no abilities to kill or damage anybody
pugboy nailed it and asuna is retarded, who even cares abt those stats? he and his team won the whole thing my guy lol
eszett [#12]you must be kidding coz tuyz has the highest KAST of americas 💀
I agree KAST is more useful.
Im just saying average acs is a better metric than highest kills in a map
K1ru4 [#14]pugboy nailed it and asuna is retarded, who even cares abt those stats? he and his team won the whole thing my guy lol
What did I say that was wrong??
I just said average acs is a more useful stat than highest kills in a map.
Was I wrong about that?
Also are you saying average acs MEANS NOTHING AT ALL???
FNEGGS [#10]HOLY SHIT, i know this is not an accurate measurement of how good of a player he is, im saying its funny that one of the top rated controller couldnt outfrag an assistant coach
this is not an argument, is a comment for shits and giggles.
rent free
pugboy [#8]bro uses acs to measure a players impact
the man has a 80% KAST and plays smokes he is fine
Mate this thread is just a response to a thread made earlier that compared highest kills in a map
Asuna_Yuuki [#15]I agree KAST is more useful.
Im just saying average acs is a better metric than highest kills in a map
but stills not so good at all
cioccolat [#6]Damn you really mad huh?
Its funny how TuyZ has less acs than FNS, who by VLR consensus, is the worst mechanical tier 1 player
eszett [#20]but stills not so good at all
Average acs is the second best metric of comparing players right after KAST
Tell me, what stat is the best to compare players other than KAST
Are you saying KAST is the only statistic that matters in Valorant?
gamr [#17]pooyz is genuinely awful, any praise he gets is because he is on LOUD. take any smokes player on a decent BR Challengers team and they would play 10x as well as pooyz
These nicknames kill me
Asuna_Yuuki [#22]Average acs is the second best metric of comparing players right after KAST
Tell me, what stat is the best to compare players other than KAST
Are you saying KAST is the only statistic that matters in Valorant?
bro, each function has the most impactful metric and i guarantee that ACS is by far one of the worsts to controllers
do you really think keznit is better than k1ngg basing on ACS?
Asuna_Yuuki [#19]Mate this thread is just a response to a thread made earlier that compared highest kills in a map
I would prefer more kills and a good kast then acs js imo
pugboy [#25]I would prefer more kills and a good kast then acs js imo
Kills<acs
Having more kills and less acs means you were stealing those kills
nuby [#27]I believe that when a player doesn't excel in certain stats, they bring a lot more to the table in other regards! Every player deserves love a respect sir
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eszett [#24]bro, each function has the most impactful metric and i guarantee that ACS is by far one of the worsts to controllers
do you really think keznit is better than k1ngg basing on ACS?
I agree KAST is better, but then what metric besides KAST is good for comparing players.
Also you cant compare K1ngg and Keznit because they play different roles so in theory, Keznit should have a higher acs
Asuna_Yuuki [#29]I agree KAST is better, but then what metric besides KAST is good for comparing players.
Also you cant compare K1ngg and Keznit because they play different roles so in theory, Keznit should have a higher acs
what i said is that ACS isn't good to use on controllers, you have to look to other things, like assists%, KAST, clutchs, rating and also ACS, but long after
Asuna_Yuuki [#16]What did I say that was wrong??
I just said average acs is a more useful stat than highest kills in a map.
Was I wrong about that?
Also are you saying average acs MEANS NOTHING AT ALL???
depending on one's role I'd say it shouldn't be the most important stats, it shouldn't be expected from smoke players or igls to be top fragging every match, since they are there to support their teammates in game and outside of the game mentally for igls mostly imo. Also you gotta split regular season and playoffs, since more matches took place during regular season and honestly for LOUD hella series weren't important, now during playoffs tuyz out acs fns, which imo doesn't matter much, since fns should be there to outcall the opposite igl mostly and quite frankly he did it well his team is at Tokyo after all and he managed to expose Fraud9, and btw fucking saadhak has one of the highest acs during playoffs, but even if he wasn't there fragging if he was just calling well and shit, that would be enough, ofc I'm not saying he should be playing like shit and not killing at all.
eszett [#30]what i said is that ACS isn't good to use on controllers, you have to look to other things, like assists%, KAST, clutchs, rating and also ACS, but long after
Acs is clearly the second best metric for comparing every role in Valorant.
Its the stat that is the least skewed depending on your role.
Just look at players like Marved, s0m and mako
Clutch % and assist % are much worse than acs
K1ru4 [#31]depending on one's role I'd say it shouldn't be the most important stats, it shouldn't be expected from smoke players or igls to be top fragging every match, since they are there to support their teammates in game and outside of the game mentally for igls mostly imo. Also you gotta split regular season and playoffs, since more matches took place during regular season and honestly for LOUD hella series weren't important, now during playoffs tuyz out acs fns, which imo doesn't matter much, since fns should be there to outcall the opposite igl mostly and quite frankly he did it well his team is at Tokyo after all and he managed to expose Fraud9, and btw fucking saadhak has one of the highest acs during playoffs, but even if he wasn't there fragging if he was just calling well and shit, that would be enough, ofc I'm not saying he should be playing like shit and not killing at all.
Bro what I said is not wrong though.
Just admit average acs is a more useful stat than highest kills in a map
I’m not here to argue whether or not tuyz or FNS is better mechanically because we all know it is Tuyz
Asuna_Yuuki [#32]Acs is clearly the second best metric for comparing every role in Valorant.
Its the stat that is the least skewed depending on your role.
Just look at players like Marved, s0m and mako
Clutch % and assist % are much worse than acs
no, bro, just to take a look: tuyz got +7 on s0m at finals (the third highest diff) and stills with lower ACS than him. In other side he got 77% kast while s0m got only 71% even being the highest ACS on nrg...
eszett [#34]no, bro, just to take a look: tuyz got +7 on s0m at finals (the third highest diff) and stills with lower ACS than him. In other side he got 77% kast while s0m got only 71% even being the highest ACS on nrg...
So you’re telling me KD is a better metric than acs?
If so, you are completely wrong.
The winning team will usually always have the higher KD regardless if there was an individual diff on the other team
Asuna_Yuuki [#35]So you’re telling me KD is a better metric than acs?
If so, you are completely wrong.
The winning team will usually always have the higher KD regardless if there was an individual diff on the other team
no, i'm NOT, what i'm tryna show is that acs in general isn't that important to controllers
eszett [#36]no, i'm NOT, what i'm tryna show is that acs in general isn't that important to controllers
Then tell me
WHAT IS??????
If its not acs then what is the 2nd most important statistic for controllers
Asuna_Yuuki [#33]Bro what I said is not wrong though.
Just admit average acs is a more useful stat than highest kills in a map
I’m not here to argue whether or not tuyz or FNS is better mechanically because we all know it is Tuyz
as I said bro, I don't feel like smoke players should be included in those stats, tuyz is literally more than half of rounds using harbor's kit, the fact he can frag is alr huge lmao, the fact he was the topfrag against NRG at lockin on Split as Astra is stupidly huge, just so you know, Pancada when he was a controller he hated playing Astra cuz he couldn't frag at all and he had to anchor, just like tuyz does, those little things won't be considered when only talking acs.
Asuna_Yuuki [#37]Then tell me
WHAT IS??????
If its not acs then what is the 2nd most important statistic for controllers
blud are you dumb??????????????? looks like you're just ignoring EVERYTHING i said
eszett [#39]blud are you dumb??????????????? looks like you're just ignoring EVERYTHING i said
Just answer me blud
gamr [#17]pooyz is genuinely awful, any praise he gets is because he is on LOUD. take any smokes player on a decent BR Challengers team and they would play 10x as well as pooyz
racists 🤠
K1ru4 [#38]as I said bro, I don't feel like smoke players should be included in those stats, tuyz is literally more than half of rounds using harbor's kit, the fact he can frag is alr huge lmao, the fact he was the topfrag against NRG at lockin on Split as Astra is stupidly huge, just so you know, Pancada when he was a controller he hated playing Astra cuz he couldn't frag at all and he had to anchor, just like tuyz does, those little things won't be considered when only talking acs.
Are you dumb?
All I’m asking is if average acs is a better stat than highest kills in a map and you’re ranting about tuyz.
Buddy what I’m talking about has nothing to do with tuyz its about statistics
Asuna_Yuuki [#43]Are you dumb?
All I’m asking is if average acs is a better stat than highest kills in a map and you’re ranting about tuyz.Buddy what I’m talking about has nothing to do with tuyz its about statistics
tuyz is being questioned in the thread retard, learn to read.
Asuna_Yuuki [#40]Just answer me blud
ACS is the most meaningless stat, especially for controllers; KAST, Rating, KDR, ADR, APR, FDPR and Clutch % (in no particular order) are all miles ahead of ACS for gauging a controller's ability and impact.
K1ru4 [#45]tuyz is being questioned in the thread retard, learn to read.
That's not what I was talking about though dude
I was only talking about statistics not tuyz.
Why did you respond to me about tuyz when I didn't even mention tuyz's name a single time in my post
nuby [#27]I believe that when a player doesn't excel in certain stats, they bring a lot more to the table in other regards! Every player deserves love a respect sir
https://www.vlr.gg/227144/fenis-lmao
tell this guy that
gamr [#17]pooyz is genuinely awful, any praise he gets is because he is on LOUD. take any smokes player on a decent BR Challengers team and they would play 10x as well as pooyz
of course if gamr, the forever-silver2-stuck said it, it's right
I mean, gamr of course has better scoutting skills than the richest org in brazil, and the top 1 igl in the world personally going to tuyz to ask him to join the roster is clearly wrong
number1_MIBR_hater [#50]of course if gamr, the forever-silver2-stuck said it, it's right
I mean, gamr of course has better scoutting skills than the richest org in brazil, and the top 1 igl in the world personally going to tuyz to ask him to join the roster is clearly wrong
u sound really mad 😭😭😭 i hope you recover
FNEGGS [#48]https://www.vlr.gg/227144/fenis-lmao
tell this guy that
I have fulfilled your request sir
FNEGGS [#49]keep making braindead posts brazilian
says the mf whose water is so tainted its ilegal to drink in other countries
cioccolat [#54]says the mf whose water is so tainted its ilegal to drink in other countries
Who drinks tap water in 2023 wake up!
number1_MIBR_hater [#50]of course if gamr, the forever-silver2-stuck said it, it's right
I mean, gamr of course has better scoutting skills than the richest org in brazil, and the top 1 igl in the world personally going to tuyz to ask him to join the roster is clearly wrong
FNS or boaster didn't ask tuyz to join NRG or Fnatic.
Wake up Loud will face relegation next season mark my words.
FNEGGS - King of Brazil
FNEGGS [#57]FNS or boaster didn't ask tuyz to join NRG or Fnatic.
Wake up Loud will face relegation next season mark my words.
FNEGGS - King of Brazil
i'm sorry you knocked your head really hard when you were a child
Asuna_Yuuki [#26]Kills<acs
Having more kills and less acs means you were stealing those kills
who cars you got the kill
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