I've seen a lot of pickems of analysts/coaches where TL goes 0-2 in tokyo, which doesn't make any sense to me, some even would favor edg and eg over the EMEA champs using NAVI and Fut to call EMEA weak region while steal having Fnatic at least in the grand final if not winning.
If you're having Fnatic in grand final, TL is at least top 4.
I'd be happy for edg if they go deep in the tournament, but saying that liquid loses vs edg and eg and goes home as a 7-8th is straight blasphemy.
Let's go back to this thread after a few days.
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Asuna_Yuuki [#9]TL always flops at internationals
Literally every single time
I cant remember a time that they haven't flopped
Find me a single time that they have lived up to expectations
What do you mean TL always flops? it's a totally different lineup, unless you think the org is cursed or some illogical bs
Jeffo [#10]What do you mean TL always flops? it's a totally different lineup, unless you think the org is cursed or some illogical bs
They've still retained some players
They always perform worse than expected at LAN which is why I don't have as much faith in them
Asuna_Yuuki [#11]They've still retained some players
They always perform worse than expected at LAN which is why I don't have as much faith in them
You're making 0 sense lil bro, they just won EMEA on LAN, and "always" is not viable, this has nothing to do with screaM liquid, even their playstyle is quite the opposite.
Just watch the games ffs, instead of just seeing "TL" and saying they always flop
Jeffo [#12]You're making 0 sense lil bro, they just won EMEA on LAN, and "always" is not viable, this has nothing to do with screaM liquid, even their playstyle is quite the opposite.
Just watch the games ffs, instead of just seeing "TL" and saying they always flop
mb I meant international LAN
I will watch the game why are you so mad at me for me at my opinion
I am happy to be proved wrong but until then I will keep doubting
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]mb I meant international LAN
I will watch the game why are you so mad at me for me at my opinion
I am happy to be proved wrong but until then I will keep doubting
Copium has this adverse side effect of being angry towards people with rational opinions
acels [#15]lulquit is a solid TOP8 tean
Lulquit gonna lulquit like every games they've been competing in
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]mb I meant international LAN
I will watch the game why are you so mad at me for me at my opinion
I am happy to be proved wrong but until then I will keep doubting
Bro said angry, who gets angry on vlr LMAO
SilentCypher [#14]People still consider them as a dark horse and not really a top contender.
For good reason.
IMO their win against FNC was a fluke.
Other than that, Liquid scraped by VIT and FUT in the EMEA league.
Also, we are now seeing that EMEA is not that strong of a region which enhances my doubt
They have never been that good at LAN as well
Jeffo [#20]Bro said angry, who gets angry on vlr LMAO
You said "ffs" which implies that you're frustrated or aangry
Its ok bro don't be mad
Jeffo [#22]Definitely saw that 2 weeks ago LMAO
GIGACHAD fnatic: saves strats for important events like Tokyo
BETA CUCK lulquit: tryhards for a trophy no one cars about while revealing everything in their stratbook 🥱🥱🥱
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]For good reason.
IMO their win against FNC was a fluke.
Other than that, Liquid scraped by VIT and FUT in the EMEA league.
Also, we are now seeing that EMEA is not that strong of a region which enhances my doubt
They have never been that good at LAN as well
They won 3-0 vs fut, and it wasn't even close
Jeffo [#26]They won 3-0 vs fut, and it wasn't even close
Impressive, but we see that FUT aren't that great of a team
Its like if NRG were to beat 100t
acels [#25]GIGACHAD fnatic: saves strats for important events like Tokyo
BETA CUCK lulquit: tryhards for a trophy no one cars about while revealing everything in their stratbook 🥱🥱🥱
Yeah, definitely having some of the strats saving copium NAVI fans were having
Jeffo [#10]What do you mean TL always flops? it's a totally different lineup, unless you think the org is cursed or some illogical bs
I dont get it either lmfao
Asuna_Yuuki [#27]Impressive, but we see that FUT aren't that great of a team
Its like if NRG were to beat 100t
Well you said scraped by which is wrong
Jeffo [#31]Well you said scraped by which is wrong
It's true though.
If we combine the round score of TL vs VIT and NaVi, TL only had a +2 round score.
Just imagine, across the 2 series that they won, they won by an average of 1 round.
They were both extremely losable games
Asuna_Yuuki [#24]You said "ffs" which implies that you're frustrated or aangry
Its ok bro don't be mad
It's just words on your screen, no one is angry
Jeffo [#34]It's just words on your screen, no one is angry
When people use ffs, they are usually frustrated or angry.
Maybe that wasn't your intent, but that is the main interpretation
Fnatic used the split to take a break bro they said it themselves theey werent trying, even the grand final they wasnt much vaue to it cuz they already knew they made it to tokyo playoffs
the amount of strats and setups theyve been hiding since the start is whatll help them go to the grand finals of tokyo
if you look at any of their league games youd noticed that theyre running the same setups over and over and STILL beating these emea teams easily
Holistical_Nil [#36]Fnatic used the split to take a break bro they said it themselves theey werent trying, even the grand final they wasnt much vaue to it cuz they already knew they made it to tokyo playoffs
the amount of strats and setups theyve been hiding since the start is whatll help them go to the grand finals of tokyo
if you look at any of their league games youd noticed that theyre running the same setups over and over and STILL beating these emea teams easily
Navi did the same thing, they were even using yoru on most maps, and still managed to get 2nd in regular, look at them now
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]For good reason.
IMO their win against FNC was a fluke.
Other than that, Liquid scraped by VIT and FUT in the EMEA league.
Also, we are now seeing that EMEA is not that strong of a region which enhances my doubt
They have never been that good at LAN as well
their win against FNC was not a fluke did you even watch the games? as sliggy said, it should've been 3-0 TL and they threw the lotus OT. though i agree that if chronicle played up to normal levels of play it would've been closer but TL antistratted and did some really smart midrounding that was uncharacteristic of them prior esp on fracture with just really smart default counterplay and a ton of clever setups. imo FNC and TL aren't that far apart but further than FNC and LOUD for instance.
i have my reservations about EMEA teams because they don't get to play against harbor-viper as much but i think other factors lean in favor of EMEA teams. but if they have no counter to the harbor-viper setup or don't run their own it's gonna be rough for them including FNC.
Holistical_Nil [#36]Fnatic used the split to take a break bro they said it themselves theey werent trying, even the grand final they wasnt much vaue to it cuz they already knew they made it to tokyo playoffs
the amount of strats and setups theyve been hiding since the start is whatll help them go to the grand finals of tokyo
if you look at any of their league games youd noticed that theyre running the same setups over and over and STILL beating these emea teams easily
so Fnatic didn't try but Liquid did? kkkk Liquid just won while they are trolling (just watch Redgar)
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]For good reason.
IMO their win against FNC was a fluke.
Other than that, Liquid scraped by VIT and FUT in the EMEA league.
Also, we are now seeing that EMEA is not that strong of a region which enhances my doubt
They have never been that good at LAN as well
If you say Liquid scrapped their win against FUT, while beating them 3-0, then EG and DRX barely survived FUT. Also, yeah Liquid scrapped their win against NaVi, but that's NaVi. NRG, too, did scrap their win against NaVi.
Also what makes you think that Liquid never been good at lan if VCT regionals were on lan? You can say that about previous iteration of Liquid but this is completely different team with 2 international winners.
Asuna_Yuuki [#33]It's true though.
If we combine the round score of TL vs VIT and NaVi, TL only had a +2 round score.
Just imagine, across the 2 series that they won, they won by an average of 1 round.
They were both extremely losable games
In your initial comment you said they scraped by vit and fut
But since u were informed that AKSHUALLY 🥸the game vs fut wasnt even close
You decided to move the goalposts by saying welllll fut is not good and have to gall to say “but it’s true”, followed by a statement u hadnt even made, and wasnt what the other guy replied to. As you switched out fut and navi.
That wasnt the topic and you know it. You cant even argue in an honest manner lol
Jeffo [#28]Yeah, definitely having some of the strats saving copium NAVI fans were having
we're saving strats for Masters hongkong 2027
acels [#25]GIGACHAD fnatic: saves strats for important events like Tokyo
BETA CUCK lulquit: tryhards for a trophy no one cars about while revealing everything in their stratbook 🥱🥱🥱
fnatic are only good because they have goatnicle, shitmea is getting carried by Gambit players
Itsover [#47]fnatic are only good because they have goatnicle, shitmea is getting carried by Gambit players
🤬🤬
Moiraine [#45]In your initial comment you said they scraped by vit and fut
But since u were informed that AKSHUALLY 🥸the game vs fut wasnt even close
You decided to move the goalposts by saying welllll fut is not good and have to gall to say “but it’s true”, followed by a statement u hadnt even made, and wasnt what the other guy replied to. As you switched out fut and navi.
That wasnt the topic and you know it. You cant even argue in an honest manner lol
Back to waffling I see
Gutssz [#41]so Fnatic didn't try but Liquid did? kkkk Liquid just won while they are trolling (just watch Redgar)
bro thats just redgar mans an entire troll and thats one of the big reasons why this team will never win an international tourney NT tho
Holistical_Nil [#53]bro thats just redgar mans an entire troll and thats one of the big reasons why this team will never win an international tourney NT tho
Liquid is losing cuz of botcass dude and this is obvious :)
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