I think we are the only people on this site who know anything about this Challengers league and how to fix each team tbh
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ambo69 [#3]while i appreciate the appreciation post, im sure other people have valid opinions too, likecresp
Edit: oh he already posted
Gamr hates me
DSGFan [#9]Funny that this comes from the "pro watcher" (LMAO) who called everyone stupid who said that MxM would beat the Guard; I think you're very far from being the only one to know anything
fluke win really, MxM got annihilated on a tactical level but Tex was trolling. I’ll only accept defeat after this tournament ends
DSGFan [#9]Funny that this comes from the "pro watcher" (LMAO) who called everyone stupid who said that MxM would beat the Guard; I think you're very far from being the only one to know anything
tbf on paper, the guard is better and both maps were super close. Additionally the guard was playing pretty near their floor that match, it wouldn't be surprising if they stomp MxM in a rematch
DSGFan [#9]Funny that this comes from the "pro watcher" (LMAO) who called everyone stupid who said that MxM would beat the Guard; I think you're very far from being the only one to know anything
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Personal Biases exist 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
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Tex was having a horrible game and the maps were close.
gamr [#11]fluke win really, MxM got annihilated on a tactical level but Tex was trolling. I’ll only accept defeat after this tournament ends
Saying they got annihilated on a tactical level is blatantly false. Even if it was a "fluke" win, if you're a team who can get "fluke" losses, then you don't deserve to Ascend.
Cresp [#17]
Personal Biases exist 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Tex was having a horrible game and the maps were close.
Of course people have biases for their teams; it's one thing to support a team, and it's another to feign omnipotence and put other people's opinions down.
I'm not saying it wasn't a close game. I didn't even say that the Guard played bad. I was just calling out a guy who claimed to be "the only one to know anything" when he was majorly wrong on a prediction. Simple as
DSGFan [#20]Of course people have biases for their teams; it's one thing to support a team, and it's another to feign omnipotence and put other people's opinions down.
I'm not saying it wasn't a close game. I didn't even say that the Guard played bad. I was just calling out a guy who claimed to be "the only one to know anything" when he was majorly wrong on a prediction. Simple as
- he wasnt majorly wrong
- the guard underperformed way more than any reasonable viewer would predict
DSGFan [#20]Of course people have biases for their teams; it's one thing to support a team, and it's another to feign omnipotence and put other people's opinions down.
I'm not saying it wasn't a close game. I didn't even say that the Guard played bad. I was just calling out a guy who claimed to be "the only one to know anything" when he was majorly wrong on a prediction. Simple as
I mean he had a solid point, mxm barely won with a coach subbed in on the guard. I agree that if your players cant turn up in important games your team isnt as good as it is, but tbh gamr does know his stuff. Hes just funny to anger.
ambo69 [#14]tbf on paper, the guard is better and both maps were super close. Additionally the guard was playing pretty near their floor that match, it wouldn't be surprising if they stomp MxM in a rematch
IDK about stomping. I do think they are on equal footing, so the Guard very well could win in a rematch. The difference between you and gamr is that you simply state your opinions about a team based on what you see, while gamr proceeds to call everyone who disagrees with him a moron.
The reason why I'm inclined to support MxM as being stronger is because they beat the Guard on bind. The Guard enjoys Bind, and you could argue it's their best map. MxM never played it before. To beat the Guard on Bind the first time you ever play Bind is a massive accomplishment, you can't deny that.
jkjkjk [#22]Is this the same user that said Guard cannot possibly lose to MxM? lol what a chump
gold players mentality congratulating themselves.. what a surprise
yep, that's him
DSGFan [#25]IDK about stomping. I do think they are on equal footing, so the Guard very well could win in a rematch. The difference between you and gamr is that you simply state your opinions about a team based on what you see, while gamr proceeds to call everyone who disagrees with him a moron.
The reason why I'm inclined to support MxM as being stronger is because they beat the Guard on bind. The Guard enjoys Bind, and you could argue it's their best map. MxM never played it before. To beat the Guard on Bind the first time you ever play Bind is a massive accomplishment, you can't deny that.
in no world is bing the gaurd's best map, lotus and fracture are their best maps easily. I have MxM and Guard as top 2 going into playoffs, so like oh well both will most likely make it to ascension unless M80 step up to pre split 2 form
DSGFan [#25]IDK about stomping. I do think they are on equal footing, so the Guard very well could win in a rematch. The difference between you and gamr is that you simply state your opinions about a team based on what you see, while gamr proceeds to call everyone who disagrees with him a moron.
The reason why I'm inclined to support MxM as being stronger is because they beat the Guard on bind. The Guard enjoys Bind, and you could argue it's their best map. MxM never played it before. To beat the Guard on Bind the first time you ever play Bind is a massive accomplishment, you can't deny that.
Bind is not even close to The Guard’s best map. It’s Pearl, Lotus, Fracture, Ascent, Haven, Bind, then Split in that order.
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Cresp [#23]I mean he had a solid point, mxm barely won with a coach subbed in on the guard. I agree that if your players cant turn up in important games your team isnt as good as it is, but tbh gamr does know his stuff. Hes just funny to anger.
MxM didn't barely win. They lost Split in triple OT, which you could argue is MxM's weakest map. Mind you, they got stomped by G2 on split 13-5 or something like that before, so that was a massive improvement. MxM swept Haven 13-7 and Pearl 13-7. A 6 round deficit isn't barely winning. They cleared the Guard on those maps with a coach.
DSGFan [#31]MxM didn't barely win. They lost Split in triple OT, which you could argue is MxM's weakest map. Mind you, they got stomped by G2 on split 13-5 or something like that before, so that was a massive improvement. MxM swept Haven 13-7 and Pearl 13-7. A 6 round deficit isn't barely winning. They cleared the Guard on those maps with a coach.
They won haven 13-10 dumbass
ambo69 [#21]
- he wasnt majorly wrong
- the guard underperformed way more than any reasonable viewer would predict
He said that the Guard was going to stomp MxM. Losing 2-0 is the polar opposite of stomping someone. The Guard did not underperform. On the contrary, some of their round wins were spectacular, like the flawless thrifty win on Bind. You could say Tex had a bad day, but sym had pretty much the same scoreline as Tex, which tells you how the game was played:
the duelists were used a lot more for space creation/gaining control, and because both teams are super competent, they punished each other's duelists for being first entry. That is, MxM's set ups were overall better that game, if even a tiny bit. Combine that with the ungodly clutch capabilities of MxM, and that's enough to push MxM to the win.
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gamr [#32]They won haven 13-10 dumbass
My bad, I misread the score line on Haven. Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that you enjoy being an asshole unnecessarily, and it also doesn't change that MxM has beaten the Guard 2-0 with their full roster, and one of those maps being Bind no less, which is the Guard's strongest map.
DSGFan [#36]My bad, I misread the score line on Haven. Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that you enjoy being an asshole unnecessarily, and it also doesn't change that MxM has beaten the Guard 2-0 with their full roster, and one of those maps being Bind no less, which is the Guard's strongest map.
dude bind has never been one of their best maps
gamr [#29]Bind is not even close to The Guard’s best map. It’s Pearl, Lotus, Fracture, Ascent, Haven, Bind, then Split in that order.
Where are you getting this from? Almost every time the Guard gets a chance to pick Bind, they do. How are you going to call Bind their 2nd worst map lmao? There was even a Sean Gares interview about when he was the 100T coach where he talked about playing the Guard and how the Guard like playing Bind so he prepped 100T against Guard's bind.
Before the MxM game, Bind was their second best map long-term historically with a win% of 73.6%, being second only to Icebox on which they have 77% win rate and is currently out of the pool. Lotus is their best map now with an 88% win rate, but they've only played it during this challengers season, so the sample size is small. Evidently, they weren't confident enough in Lotus to pick it against MxM.
ambo69 [#28]in no world is bing the gaurd's best map, lotus and fracture are their best maps easily. I have MxM and Guard as top 2 going into playoffs, so like oh well both will most likely make it to ascension unless M80 step up to pre split 2 form
I'm copy pasting my response to gamr about Bind:
Where are you getting this from? Almost every time the Guard gets a chance to pick Bind, they do. How are you going to call Bind their 2nd worst map lmao? There was even a Sean Gares interview about when he was the 100T coach where he talked about playing the Guard and how the Guard like playing Bind so he prepped 100T against Guard's bind.
Before the MxM game, Bind was their second best map long-term historically with a win% of 73.6%, being second only to Icebox on which they have 77% win rate and is currently out of the pool. Lotus is their best map now with an 88% win rate, but they've only played it during this challengers season, so the sample size is small. Evidently, they weren't confident enough in Lotus to pick it against MxM.
kanyefan4238173 [#34]look at me. my pickem will be perfect https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/c12e663a
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ambo69 [#16]what ive said since DAY ONE
oxy is better dawg he is legit the entry penny is the "baiter" duelist
OkOkay [#42]oxy is better dawg he is legit the entry penny is the "baiter" duelist
Nah, oxy is a great rifler but he cant op as well, and he has negative agent pool. He should be flex tbh.
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koromast [#45]i got all my pickems right on first round then everything went opposite on upper semis and lower 💀💀💀💀
btw oxg winning it all not even coping
Cresp [#43]Nah, oxy is a great rifler but he cant op as well, and he has negative agent pool. He should be flex tbh.
he plays raze and jett thats good enough for a duelist player
OkOkay [#47]he plays raze and jett thats good enough for a duelist player
But he cant op so his jett is subpar :/. He would be W flex if he could do something that wasnt int every game and not play jett and raze.
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