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SEN coaches threw the 2-0 opportunity

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#1
HuntersFury

NRG is actually going to 2-0 EG, SEN had a very good chance tbh.
Whose idea was it to let Haven go through LMAO? One of Furia's most played map but SEN didn't look prepared at all despite Furia not changing the comp! They had a way better chance keeping fracture or ascent open.

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Sentinels would probably lose on Ascent as well as Haven, but the Furia fracture is hideous and Sentinels would win 100%

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jawn
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facts

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MuZe
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100% fracture because of double duelist

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HuntersFury
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Ricardo_Ereto69 [#2]

Sentinels would probably lose on Ascent as well as Haven, but the Furia fracture is hideous and Sentinels would win 100%

It's easier to pug Ascent than it is do on haven. Haven is a 3 site map, you need good understanding of the opponent and the map. Also, SEN could have had a better/ more suitable comp for their players on ascent or fracture. Zekken didn't look comfortable on Breach against FNC as well, it was a very weird decision. Specially cz they have been banning it till now which means they either ain't good on it or haven't practiced that map until very very recently. Huge gamble that costed them playoffs

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uhh probably the other brit on the team let haven go through, he is the analyst and shit so yea. should have an all americas team instead of 1 brit, but thats just my opinion :D

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The moment they lost the second map it was over for them

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HuntersFury [#5]

It's easier to pug Ascent than it is do on haven. Haven is a 3 site map, you need good understanding of the opponent and the map. Also, SEN could have had a better/ more suitable comp for their players on ascent or fracture. Zekken didn't look comfortable on Breach against FNC as well, it was a very weird decision. Specially cz they have been banning it till now which means they either ain't good on it or haven't practiced that map until very very recently. Huge gamble that costed them playoffs

haven is not a pug friendly map i agree.

you think it would better for SEN if they banned Haven instead of ascent then? that makes sense to me.

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HuntersFury
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FrenchToast [#8]

haven is not a pug friendly map i agree.

you think it would better for SEN if they banned Haven instead of ascent then? that makes sense to me.

Yes, for sure. There could have been an anti-strat angle but SEN didn't do anything to counter that Furia comp that they have been running for a while. They didn't take A lobby with breach util, didn't push mid so Furia easily overwhelmed them on site hits. Caoch issue. SEN should try to get sgares alongside kaplan at any cost

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ZhangWei
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Ahh Sentinels! Back on finding a scapegoat again now that dephh isn't in the roster anymore. Classic!

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HuntersFury
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sn4ke_gg [#7]

The moment they lost the second map it was over for them

2-0 was a heavy ask from the get go but weird veto and weird comp on haven

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HuntersFury
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ZhangWei [#10]

Ahh Sentinels! Back on finding a scapegoat again now that dephh isn't in the roster anymore. Classic!

It's hindsight but even hindsight it didn't make sense to me. I had bo winner in that race.

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HuntersFury [#9]

Yes, for sure. There could have been an anti-strat angle but SEN didn't do anything to counter that Furia comp that they have been running for a while. They didn't take A lobby with breach util, didn't push mid so Furia easily overwhelmed them on site hits. Caoch issue. SEN should try to get sgares alongside kaplan at any cost

Let sgares and kaplan cook fr

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Cannot
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I don't really think it mattered if they banned either Ascent or Haven they probably don't have very high chance to win either one against Furia who is pretty good on both. I think Furia is worse on Ascent than Haven giving SEN a better shot on ascent.

But at the same time how much practice would SEN have with the roles they would need to play ascent? The roles they played on Haven are much more consistent with what each person typically plays so they probably just decided on that.

if they run the normal comp, who is playing Kay/0? zekken or sacy probably? but how comfortable would either of them be since they have typically always played the sova on that map? How much practice time would they have for that? If they decide for a different comp they would need to put in even more work and time that this (MIND YOU STILL PRETTY NEW ROSTER, some people forget this current roster has been together two weeks or something) would probably struggle with.

either way its just a tough spot for the team and you can't really blame the coaches if you actually think about it for more than 3 seconds

#15
SaltyMcNulty
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Only If Kaplan and drew weren't so stubborn with keeping dephh man. They would have beat EG with TenZ i feel like.

#16
Ullyr
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yeah like its crazy how that slip away from them. NRG was favorite to go 2 0. Had SEN close it out 2 0 they would be in playoffs now.

#17
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I will never understand SEN's vetos. whoever does them, dont know what their own team is good at. Im pretty sure they dont watch sacy's/zekken's/ or tenz streams. Because if they did, you can tell they pop off on certain maps with certain agents. Their vetos are almost always dogshit.

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Cannot [#14]

I don't really think it mattered if they banned either Ascent or Haven they probably don't have very high chance to win either one against Furia who is pretty good on both. I think Furia is worse on Ascent than Haven giving SEN a better shot on ascent.

But at the same time how much practice would SEN have with the roles they would need to play ascent? The roles they played on Haven are much more consistent with what each person typically plays so they probably just decided on that.

if they run the normal comp, who is playing Kay/0? zekken or sacy probably? but how comfortable would either of them be since they have typically always played the sova on that map? How much practice time would they have for that? If they decide for a different comp they would need to put in even more work and time that this (MIND YOU STILL PRETTY NEW ROSTER, some people forget this current roster has been together two weeks or something) would probably struggle with.

either way its just a tough spot for the team and you can't really blame the coaches if you actually think about it for more than 3 seconds

Ascent is easier to pug also the meta comp on ascent fits their roles better. TenZ/zekken- Jett, TenZ/zekken - kayO, marved-astra/omen, pANcada- kj, sacy -sova.

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