That truly looks it can dominate whole scene for long time
Actually forget about NA, bcz historically only Gambit looked that way, now it’s C9
Big respect to MCE, congrats NA 🥳🥳🥳
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ToastByToast [#3]bro just going to forget about the entirety of 2022
optic was the most dominant but they didn’t dominate
ToastByToast [#3]bro just going to forget about the entirety of 2022
Optics never looked dominant like prime Gambit or current C9, they were solid tier 1 team with exceptional players. Look, in EMEA terms c9&optic is like current Fnatic & Navi. One team is dominant and may start era, the second one is a bit above with no era <3
Subreezy [#5]optic was the most dominant but they didn’t dominate
yeah but neither did gambit, which this guy mentioned. they didn't even make the first lan, won one masters, and got second at champions. Optic did the same thing but actually showed up to all the international tournaments
Aladeeen [#6]Optics never looked dominant like prime Gambit or current C9, they were solid tier 1 team with exceptional players. Look, in EMEA terms c9&optic is like current Fnatic & Navi. One team is dominant and may start era, the second one is a bit above with no era <3
Yes. The team who made 2/3 international finals last yr did not look dominant.
Make it make sense
ToastByToast [#9]yeah but neither did gambit, which this guy mentioned. they didn't even make the first lan, won one masters, and got second at champions. Optic did the same thing but actually showed up to all the international tournaments
that's fair, i guess he was speaking moreso about appearance rather than actual stats, gambit LOOKED to be one of the most dominant teams, any time i think of optic i dont think of them as dominant tbh because their wins felt "scrappy" looking back on it
i agree that they deserved their 1st, 3rd, and 2nd hands down but something about optic feels differerent than Gambit. maybe it's because they won their first masters, got 2nd at champs in a 3-2 to acend, and then had to deal with the russia ukraine conflict which was a major 3rd party event that hindered their performance. they could've been more but got shafted due to world conflicts
moatz [#11]Yes. The team who made 2/3 international finals last yr did not look dominant.
Make it make sense
I’m just saying c9 has more potential than optic. Also Chamber meta was broken never forget this, now we watch better Valorant with more balance and talents involved (all frauds like t0nz, y0y, cn0d are nearly washed)
Subreezy [#12]that's fair, i guess he was speaking moreso about appearance rather than actual stats, gambit LOOKED to be one of the most dominant teams, any time i think of optic i dont think of them as dominant tbh because their wins felt "scrappy" looking back on it
i agree that they deserved their 1st, 3rd, and 2nd hands down but something about optic feels differerent than Gambit. maybe it's because they won their first masters, got 2nd at champs in a 3-2 to acend, and then had to deal with the russia ukraine conflict which was a major 3rd party event that hindered their performance. they could've been more but got shafted due to world conflicts
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